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EP 65- From Small-Town Murders To Zombie Survival welcome to Kosmic Cove!!
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Two years into our October tradition, we go all-in on a story that still haunts North Carolina’s back roads. It starts like a Southern postcard—neighbors waving, steady days—and fractures into something darker: a physician obsessed with mega-dose cures and Nazi lore, a son raised on guns and grandiose lies, and a woman in a custody war looking for a savior. We trace the “Bitter Blood” murders from Kentucky to Greensboro, unpacking staged robberies, bleach-scrubbed scenes, and the chilling calm of execution. When the chase finally erupts—an Uzi spitting from a Blazer and a blast that ends everything—you feel how delusion can harden into a worldview ruthless enough to swallow a family.
From there, we change gears without losing tension. Zombies become a lab: walkers vs runners, Romero logic, airborne vs bloodborne infection. We get tactical about survival—range weapons, noise discipline, when fire helps and when it spreads risk—and tour variants you’ve met in games and movies: crawlers, brutes, armored “juggernauts,” and predatory stalkers that turn ceilings into hunting grounds. If you love The Walking Dead, Dying Light, I Am Legend, or Left 4 Dead, this chunk is candy for your inner strategist.
And then, the personal gets weird. Three unexplained scratches that scar. A broad-daylight wave of pressure that buckles the body. A friend entranced by a cat’s tail, drawn toward an open, unlit doorway. A dream where an old woman steps out of a painting and clamps a mouth shut mid-defiance. Add a featherless “thunderbird” sighting, tall pale figures on a rain-dark road, and a textile plant where pliers fly and a dead machine starts itself. We don’t pretend to solve the paranormal; we give you the details, the feels, and the space to decide.
Hit play if you want true crime with stakes, horror with homework, and banter that keeps the lights from going out. If you’re into small-town murder cases, zombie survival, haunted workplaces, or just love October, you’re home. Subscribe, share with a friend who debates walkers vs runners, and leave a review telling us your first move in a zombie outbreak.
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SPEAKER_01:Welcome, Cosmic Cole family. We're back. That's right. We're back. Ha ha. I know. Where's the back?
SPEAKER_04:Which one is it? Yeah. Or look. We know y'all missed it. Y'all miss hearing our voices in y'all ears. Got you.
SPEAKER_03:Damn, hold up. Got you what?
SPEAKER_04:Trembling, shivering. Got you shivering your timbers, baby girl.
SPEAKER_03:Right, when that shit happened. You start talking dirty to your girl. Oh, yeah. And then I'm gonna, and then I'm I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna put it right there. I'm gonna look into your eyes. Oh, I swear you're not gonna be walking for a week after this. After these five minutes. After this four minutes, 45 seconds. I swear you're not gonna be walking. Straight, that is.
SPEAKER_02:You're gonna be asking me for Getter A.
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna be asking me for some Artec Blast. So for liquid IV or something. You're gonna need a Tyler. I might sat your period earlier.
SPEAKER_04:You say you're tired of it. I'll get her, I'll take it away from you. I'll get rid of it for a big girl.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just joking. I'm just joking. All the dudes chill, chill, chill. Over. Not a single unique experience.
SPEAKER_04:What it do, everybody? What it do, Cosmic Code. We back. Y'all already know what time it is. It's October. What does that mean?
SPEAKER_01:That means it's spooky season.
SPEAKER_04:Cosmic Code second anniversary. Cosmic Code, cosmic horror month. You already know what it is. Hashtag, hashtag. Right. We back at it again. Round of applause. Ain't no way I got that button, right? But um, yeah, we're back. We're we're back in the motion, back in action. You know, I finally got a break from school. You know, when you drop out from getting screwed from school, I finally dropped out. You know, I really thought. Oh shit, what the fuck? Wait, wait, wait. I really sat there and was like, do I need this? No. So I just signed out of my class and never slot, never logged back in.
SPEAKER_01:Really? What they gonna do? Sue you or some shit like that? Kick me out. Kick me out. Come on now. Come on now. They wouldn't do that. They gotta be the bigger person.
SPEAKER_04:God forbid they threaten you with a good time.
SPEAKER_01:Talking about don't go to school no more. Ah, fuck. Ah, shucks. Oh well.
SPEAKER_04:Now I guess. Now we've just been so busy, like I said. We've been having too much. Obviously, same excuse. Just replay the last episode. What I said that episode? Same thing. Same thing.
SPEAKER_01:Ain't nothing changed. Ain't nothing changed.
SPEAKER_04:Rent and repeat.
SPEAKER_01:Rent and repeat it. They need to add more hours to the to the day. Tired of these 24-hour days. Had a mocha come out. Oh shit. But um said shit was wet.
SPEAKER_04:It was a sticky one. But um, what was I saying? Um, you know, because when I see a new podcast start and they already got a thousand followers and subscribers, I tell myself, where am I going wrong?
SPEAKER_01:I tell myself, they're buying subscribers. That's what I tell myself. They cheating. They got money, they cheating.
SPEAKER_03:They have a good editor, they have someone that actually knows what they're doing, does their job correctly, in a timely manner, not like the editor we have. Better if you're listening to this. You're fired. Get out. Get out of the office. You need to leave.
SPEAKER_04:But um, uh, what was I gonna say? Oh, yeah, that's right. Since it's um, before we get into it, I'm gonna give y'all a little quick breakdown of how we do Cosmic Co. Horror Month. Right, right. So for the duration of this month, we're gonna be butt-ass naked. Butt ass naked. With with the with with the little costume for every donation, I'll remove a pasty from said location. I have pasties on right now. So every time I get a donation, I'll remove a pasty. Like your televisions, it's like a big pasty, and every time it gets smaller and small and smaller. Yeah, chat. Until you get to the goods. That's more of the edge. That's when I'm like, oh, my camera's about to die, and I just cut off the stream. Y'all really not thinking. Dude, tap in.
SPEAKER_03:I'm telling you, that's a whole formula to it. Y'all not buying my$14.99. Get quick screen.
SPEAKER_02:I ain't gonna lie, look y'all feel like that's something that can actually work.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like that's a viable, that's that's a viable scam. I ain't gonna lie.
SPEAKER_04:Hey, y'all not tapped in like me.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all not thinking about the bag like more. Over there dropping them gold coins and shit, thinking about the sing something. Donate, donate. You know the little bo.
SPEAKER_03:What noise is that? Is that bro? How he know the noises? I needed to say something that day.
SPEAKER_02:You know, it get it cold when it gets dark.
SPEAKER_01:It gets dark at night. It gets dark when the sun goes down.
SPEAKER_04:But um, oh yeah, so so this sorry, my bad. We keep going off on the little side. We get a little silly. We haven't seen each other in forever.
SPEAKER_01:Forever.
SPEAKER_04:It's been a minute now.
SPEAKER_01:Three weeks. Pretty much.
SPEAKER_03:Three weeks. Have not seen you, bro. It feels it feels crazy. Right. I tried sending smoke signals, but it's like it didn't reach or something, bro.
SPEAKER_02:I stopped smoking. That was the part.
SPEAKER_04:I think it got clouded with the chemtrails.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, the chemtrails, the chemtrails. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I woke up, I mean, I was at work, I look at the sky, I'm like, dang, chemtrails first thing in the morning.
SPEAKER_01:Didn't even know that's what it was, bro. That that's really what gets me going in the mornings. I step outside, little Kimmy. Lil' Kimmy, little Kimmy in your lungs, you know. You know, you start start activating.
SPEAKER_02:Get activated, start, start moving, you feel me? That's really what I do.
SPEAKER_04:Really? Really? That's all you need to get going. Coffee? No. Nope. Kim? Yeah. Yep. Kim Trail. Mmm. Red?
SPEAKER_01:No. Red 40? Yes. I love it. I love it. Give me, give me red 40 powder mo powder for him. No. Give it to me in a in a big uh 24-ounce uh uh fruit punch. Yes. Give me that Hawaiian punch, red 40. Hey, I Hawaiian punch, though, red 40. The best red 40.
SPEAKER_04:That should be altering your DNA. You can feel it, alter your DNA.
SPEAKER_01:You can feel it, bro. I swear. I'd be looking at my tip, but that shit get redder and redder every time I drink it, bro. What you mean, bro? That shit like a thermostat, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Jay, he done lost to y'all. But um, like like we were saying, for the month of October, we just like do like horror-based related stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_04:So don't forget, we also do our costume thing where we dress up for one of the episodes. If we have stories that y'all submit, then we will read your story on Halloween weekend, I think. So if y'all have any horror stories, you know, message us at cosmic cove at K-O-S-M-I- underscore C O V E on Instagram or on TikTok. I'm gonna post it again. I'm gonna post if anybody has any horror stories. Because last time I posted it, ain't none of y'all. Ain't none of y'all message saying, yeah, I got yeah, I saw this crackhead, blah, blah, blah. None of that.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all gonna tell us three weeks, three weeks after the uh, three, three weeks after the uh after the event. Too late. Too late. You got what you keep your stories. I don't even want it no more. Don't even want it next year. You know what? Give me your story. Message. Hey big head. Hey, vegetables. Who be seeing my messages? Who knows what I be saying? Hey, chicken neck. Hey Turkey foot.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, my Haitian princess.
SPEAKER_04:No, I'm just messing with it.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, my fucked up teeth. Start getting personal. Start getting personal with that shit. Hey, my body hat. Hi G. Chill Zeus, chill, buddy. Chill.
SPEAKER_03:Hello, my misdemeanor queen. Hello, my little thug.
SPEAKER_04:But um, yeah, so we're gonna be doing that on the last week of October.
SPEAKER_01:Like I said, we'll be doing like a bunch of horror-based stuff, so we'll talk about we're gonna we're gonna dress up and uh we're gonna have a uh costume uh contest. Uh the loser gets executed live on the guillotine. On the guillotine. Um, yeah. Yeah, y'all vote. Y'all vote.
SPEAKER_03:Um yeah, giant.
SPEAKER_04:Uh we're gonna be doing like uh, like I said, we'll we'll have scary stories that we're pretty much like anything scary we're doing this month. We'll talk about anything. Anything really anything really, anything scary related. Just know it's gonna be all horror this month. So yes, I know we were supposed to do the Roanoke Island Roanoke colony.
SPEAKER_01:That's really more of a Thanksgiving um y'all get that episode earlier.
SPEAKER_02:That's a Thanksgiving special, really. That that's because that's the way I was thinking.
SPEAKER_04:So y'all look forward to that during that time. So my bad, y'all.
SPEAKER_01:We got we got a little carried away. Hey, you got look, I looked at this story, and even that I already seen the episode in the future. It ain't even that good.
SPEAKER_03:No, it's reference's notes wasn't even that good. I read that shit. I can't believe he thought he could do something with that.
SPEAKER_01:What was it with you? It was mine. I know.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I guess we're just gonna go into this. I'll give you more updates on what we have like planned ahead. Because I want to do like I don't know. I I'll talk, I'll think I'll talk um, I'll talk about it next episode. Oh, yeah. I need time to think about it.
SPEAKER_02:Type shit, type shit. Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04:But before we get started, uh I was gonna ask you how you been, bro. I haven't seen you in forever.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Oh it's been forever. It's it's been too long, honestly. Uh, what have I done? Not shit with my life. Um not really shit. I haven't really done shit. I feel like I had stuff, yeah, that I was like funny stuff, but I can't think for the life of me. I've been trying to think this whole day of like stuff that I like I had for that week that oh, you know, this was pretty funny this week or stuff like that, and I was gonna talk about it. Didn't even write nothing down, didn't even didn't even all the funny stuff gone, gone. All those scripts I had, gone. Every script moment I had, gone. No RNG, none, none, but was gone. I'm I'm trying to think, but nothing literally, literally, nothing too crazy. I did have some funny stuff, some stuff like that, like I said, that happened, but I I can't remember.
SPEAKER_04:Um you ain't see no crazy stuff when you go to the store, nothing like that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there was something I can't remember though. Um there was something, yeah, but like I said, I can't I can't remember. It was nothing paranormal or anything like that. It was just like something that I seen. Funny encounter. Uh-huh. Like at the store. It's funny, it's like now they're telling me, like, I'm trying to remember, but um Oh, I got this one. I remember this one, but so okay, so check this out. This is just a little little sign. Hey. So I went to the bank, right? I went to I went to the parts of my mom's check and she wanted me to draw some money. Bro, all I hear behind me is hey sir. I said, fuck, fuck, fuck. My ass. They found me. I said, fuck, bro. Hey sir. I said, fuck, bro, fuck, bro. Chunk a couple feet away. I even had it on me, but I was about to hit that. You feel me? I was I was legs that way. I was about to shoot my body that way. You feel me?
SPEAKER_04:They say I need to see some identification. Me reaching to my back pocket, like I'm pulling out something, but it's just my wallet.
SPEAKER_01:But so, hey sir. All right. Nah, I was playing. I was about to say, boy, so I'm ignoring it, right? Because I don't even know if it's for me or if it's not, you know. You usually, you know, I was I was at the ATM outside the bank, right? So I was like, I was like, if I if I get if I get slammed out right here, I hope it catches on camera. I hope I hope they uh they find my uh my killer, you know. I hope I was like, I as I was turning out, I was like, I hope they don't got a shice on already. That's a rat that's a wrap for me right there. Turn around. Just uh just a young young individual just asking for money to to eat. Oh, for real. Uh-huh. That was it. I was like, Yeah, I got a couple dollars for you. Give him a I look at my wallet. I thought I had ones. The smallest one I had was a five. Shit hurt. I hate to let that Abraham Lincoln do. That shit hurt. He tried, I I handed him the five. I wouldn't let go. He ripped it, he ripped it with me holding on to the corners. I got 45 cents out there five dollars.
SPEAKER_04:He said, Damn, bro, never mind you keeping it anymore.
SPEAKER_01:I knew the girl. But um, yeah, that was that was about it. That was like the damn that was crazy. I had one time, I know this isn't revelent, uh, what is it called? Revelent. Relevant? Yeah, relevant to to right now. But bro, one time, uh, I was with my mom. Uh I think she wrote with me. I went to deposit my check over there at Wolfswago. Bro, tell me, tell me, I just deposited the money, but some dude gonna pull up talking about my my my son, my wife, something like that. Got in a car accident. Uh I seen some some Dam.
SPEAKER_04:Dog's going crazy.
SPEAKER_02:There we go.
SPEAKER_01:So uh the uh okay, so I had just deposited money as we were going back. He's like, my my wife, whatever, my family just got in a car crash. Uh I don't got no gas. Um he spread something. He started giving me his like little, you so you know I'm not, I'm not lying. Here's my here's my birth certificate. Here's my uh here's here's all my paperwork. Here's the taxes. Here's the taxes. Yeah, but basically, bro, oh, because he was telling me to, I think he had like something wrong with this heart. So he was giving me all his all his paperwork. I'm sorry, but it's like that uh scene from King Peel, bro, where uh brother man, brother man, if you if you give me$20 right now with this ATM card, I can go refund you$20 at the at the at the store right now. If you give me$20, and then the other dude, like, well, if you gave me$20, I can do basically the same thing. I was like, damn, bro, really be like that. But they just be. He hopped out that car. That's what I told him. I don't got nothing. He looked at me disgusted, got back, got in his truck and left. Oh, you son of a bitch.
SPEAKER_04:Bro, I had something like that happen to me one time. I was just getting out Best Buy. Uh-huh. I I don't bro. I spent like 10 bucks or some shit. Touch it. Motherfuckers be thinking you dropping a bag at the bag. I'm trying too, bro. They sell erasers. But um, I'm walking out with a little bag. Some dude's gonna pull his window down. Hey, my friend, my friend. Oh bro, like you said, bro. I'm over. I knocked through my head back. I'm like, here we go, bro. This is it for me. They're gonna say, get in the bag, get in the back of the vehicle, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, get in the back of the uh van with the blacked out white van with the blacked out window, take your pants off. If only fucked.
SPEAKER_04:I reached down, I feel a beard. But um, so he's like, he's like, he's like, I have gold for you. Gold. He said, cheap, real gold. I'm like, let me see this. So he had the gold in his hand, he showed it to I didn't hold it, but he like put it like towards me. Very real gold, real gold. I sell to you cheap. I'm like, how much? 200, 200. 200. Oh, but you talking about tea, you motherfucker. Cheap is 20 dollars. I ain't even got it on me. How much you got?
SPEAKER_01:Damn, how much you got?
SPEAKER_04:That's how they make that sale, but I was like, bruh, I got maybe like a hundred on me right now. I was like, unless you take card, no friend. Money only. All right, bruh. And he was like, he's like 100. I take hundred. No, I don't want that cheap. As soon as I said no, he said, he just drove. He sped on, bruh.
SPEAKER_03:I guess he thought I was like trying to hold him off or something like that, bruh. But he sped on. He he didn't say all right, then he didn't say nothing. He said, All right, 20. I was like, all right, bro.
SPEAKER_01:You got that call center energy. As soon as you said no, bro, they don't hung up on you, they're all the calls the next person.
SPEAKER_04:I was like, damn, I could really rock this fucking goat chain. No cap, I gotta fit just for it. My SpongeBob, my Spongebob t-shirt.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, bro, was not, bro. He's on to the next one. This is a dead fish.
SPEAKER_04:I was like, dang, I can't believe somebody will fall for that. I get in the car. Uh, my brother gets in the car.
SPEAKER_03:Bro, I got this nice ass chain I just bought for like 50 bucks. 50 bucks. He was gonna sell it to me for 100. That fucking naughty joke, that didn't happen. But uh, that didn't happen. I just joke.
SPEAKER_04:But um yeah, bro, I was like, bro, that's crazy, bro. You can't even walk out the store without somebody. I just spent money. What makes you think I got money? I just you want it's in there, it's in the register over there. That's where I put it.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, I told I told her hold the money for you. Just go up there, get you just go up there, give your name, but just go up there. They know me. Just just tell them, just tell them you're here for that money, but they'll give it to you, man. Let me go end up arrested. Messing me in the child. Damn, but but it really be like that, bro. I ain't think I I I think we were that bad, that bad, but I thought the nation was healing, bro. Brad they were healing too, bro. But apparently not, but damn, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Apparently, Bitcoin's not up for everybody, bro. You invested too late. You invested. So you're not locked in, you too busy sitting on the couch, living your life or what you not tapped into the market.
SPEAKER_01:Whole lot of laughing, whole lot of laughing. You need to be more serious about this this life shit. You need to be more serious.
SPEAKER_04:While you were sitting in middle school or elementary school watching the house market crash, wasted your time. Look at you. Look at you. I would have done bought 10 real estate, I mean 10 10 houses, converted that into a property management company, and then sold everything at this time. That's where I'm at today. That's a cabinet man. I really sold everything, gave it away just so I could get away from what it's like easily.
SPEAKER_01:Gave it a just so I know how it feels good from the bottom.
SPEAKER_04:Just so I know, because everybody says it's hard nowadays, so I figured if it's so hard, let me go ahead and reset. So I reset like like you max prestige, I re-reset it my max prestige. I said, fuck, I want to see what it feels like to live in this in this in this uh circumstances.
unknown:Really?
SPEAKER_01:Really? You really you really can't say you you came from nothing if you didn't give up everything to start from nothing.
SPEAKER_04:Everybody's like, you know what the fucking stories? Alright, alright, that's enough bullshit. We done bullshit enough. But um, all right, so today we're gonna be doing scary stories, and we're gonna be talking about a good FFF uh subject. But then we're gonna go back to stories. But but but but before we start, sorry. I don't have any scary stories, so I'm gonna let you do this whole episode by yourself. No, I'm just joking. I'm just joking for Bass. That's based.
SPEAKER_01:Chill, chill, buddy. Who said as expected? I prepare for this. Looking for you, I got dozens of short stories. Nah, I got I got some personal uh um I got some mainly from Reddit.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, okay, that's cool.
SPEAKER_04:So I figured I was gonna do something different. I was gonna do like something that happened in this area. Ooh, okay. Like close, like right here where we live in the little town we live. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got the bubble. We got the bubble. But um uh what was I gonna say? Um Yeah, so I'm gonna do I'm gonna do like because I was gonna look at a paranormal one. Because they have like the haunted place over there. You know what I'm talking about? What haunted place? On Scale Street.
SPEAKER_01:On Scale Street, all that building.
SPEAKER_04:It was like uh it's like uh it was like a haunted attraction, but apparently there's like history behind it. I don't know if it's that building exactly, but there's like history to it. Oh, I didn't even know that.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't even know we had we had lore like that. We got some backstory. We got backstory. We got backstory lore. Backstory lore. What's the badge that they were dead?
SPEAKER_04:Y'all thought we was Lil'ville. No, we bigville. Big stepping. Oh, all right. So I did like one thing. That's it. I did one thing and then I did the FFF.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Swan bro.
SPEAKER_04:But it's a lot to it.
SPEAKER_01:Type shit, okay.
SPEAKER_04:Like a lot, like two hours long.
SPEAKER_01:Go ahead, bro. You got Alright, all right. That's my that's my title episode right there. Go ahead. I even I ain't even look up nothing, really.
SPEAKER_04:I don't even Alright, so I tried like obviously like I tried getting everything like condensed, but something might be like like I but I might be missing like a little bit of details. Oh, okay, okay. Because it's like so much to it, bruh. And it's like hard to like get everything or get everything in there without like accidentally like talking about in it, without like I guess like um taking like other people's work. You know what I'm saying? Oh, okay, now fuck that, bro. We take other people's work, but like nah, we would take that shit, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Don't even give it no credit, bro. Don't even not explain.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not saying like obviously you're gonna use other like police reports and all this stuff, but I'm saying like without me sounding too close, because like you know, you don't want to rinse and repeat. I mean, but I I don't know what I'm trying to say, bro. Because I get everybody's gonna be talking about the same thing at one point in time. It's just the way you explain it.
SPEAKER_01:People people I've I've heard a story that you covered. There's somebody and I ain't never heard that story before until you covered it. Which one? It was the potato one.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, for real?
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04:Oh. I was about to say, oh, you heard somebody explain it then? Uh-huh. I heard someone.
SPEAKER_01:I was because I was listening to it and I was like, Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_04:I heard I heard this one.
SPEAKER_01:This seems awfully familiar.
SPEAKER_04:What'd you say? And I bet they dying. And they died.
SPEAKER_01:And they died. I was like, bro. I had that uh That's a Raven moment when she goes into that uh she sees the future. Yeah, I started going, chill, chill. But look at that, bro. Look at that. They chilling.
SPEAKER_04:But um I don't know. Like, like I said, I just don't want to have, I guess, like an imposter syndrome or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Type shit. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04:Like, I don't want to make it sound like, oh, it's this like rinse repeat type shit. Like, I don't want to make it sound exactly like theirs, so it's kind of like a rate, yeah, yeah, type shit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Okay, I see what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04:Sounds like I don't know, bro. That's where I struggled. So my my report might not be obviously as good as theirs or whatever, but it's unique, though. But it's unique.
SPEAKER_01:There you go. That's all that matters. Really, you get extra points for that. You get extra points for that.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, so this is gonna be called bitter blood. That's what the actual thing is called.
SPEAKER_01:Like the actual Damn, Zeus, calm down, buddy.
SPEAKER_04:Some people screaming, oh my god, I know this case. This is the tragedy of Fritz Clanner and Susie Lynch. I knew them. Did you? All right, this takes place in Reidsville. A quiet town with shadows. With hella bad bitches.
SPEAKER_03:Where is the strip club? We were promised.
SPEAKER_01:I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_03:We were promised a strip club.
SPEAKER_01:That was a hype of the town, man.
SPEAKER_04:Where am I supposed to be employed at? How am I supposed to pursue my career and stage?
SPEAKER_01:How about to make money if I can't be butt-naked on Molly on the stage?
SPEAKER_04:I was just gonna go up there and do stand-up.
SPEAKER_03:So I bet everybody's wondering where's the firefighters, huh?
SPEAKER_01:Now, now now uh now some words from our other guy.
SPEAKER_04:But um, yeah, this is gonna take place in uh the Reedsville area, Greensboro area.
SPEAKER_02:It's like around that realm.
SPEAKER_04:So in the 1970s and 1980s, Reedsville, North Carolina looked like any other southern town, you know. Children played in the yards, neighbors waved across fences. You know, life moved at a steady pace, you know. But beneath the calm, whispers circulated about the fuck. Whispers circulated about one household that seemed off the Clinner family. The what family? Clinner. Oh. So Dr. Frederick Clinner Sr., a respected to some physician, ran a small clinic that drew patients from miles around. Some called him a miracle worker, believing his massive doses of vitamin C could cure diseases like polio and cancer. Others called him a quack. Wary of his obsession with Nazi memorabilia and racial ideology within the town. Opinions were split. But everyone agreed the Klinner family was unusual and their home radiated an aura of quiet menace. Into this world, Fritz Clinner flitz Klinner Jr. was born. So a little You wrote this like that? Huh? You wrote it like no. Oh, you didn't do that?
SPEAKER_03:I was about to say, I said, write this shit. Good for me.
SPEAKER_04:I was about to say, dad this shit. No, no, no, no. Because like I told it, like, obviously, I'm using Chat GBT to help me write this whole report. But I was like, bro, this is too much. Like, I was like telling it, help me condense the notes. Right, right. Because I had to look at the sources and everything. I was like, add this to it, don't forget to add this to it. And I was like, it's too much for me to remember. I could do it like off my head, but I don't I'm gonna be here and I'm gonna be there. But oh, I forgot this. And I was like, just help me like just keep it in the order. Keep it like in a good steady pace so I can tell it uh in a good way.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04:But a little thing about the dad, right? So the doctor that was here who had a clinic here, like I said in the report, he was known for giving people like high doses of vitamin C, right? And um he believed in like how would you say like uh uh what's it called when you're not um with segregation. Like he believed that he believed in segregation? Yeah, like he believed in like blacks being with blacks and whites being with black. Okay, okay. Like that was his ideology. Oh, that's the type of man he was, yeah. Yeah, he was like crazy person, bro. Crazy person. That's when when they say respected, I was like, that's crazy. Respected by who? Not by me.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_04:So he had the idea of like, you know, he was like a believer in white supremacy and all this and that. And obviously, like I said, he had like essentially he liked the KKK, he liked it. It was like open openly known, yeah, yeah. Okay, touching. He like idolized like Adolf Hitler and stuff like that. Oh shit, okay. Yeah, so he was like crazy.
SPEAKER_01:I mean if you now respond.
SPEAKER_03:Can you really trust me? Can you? I don't know about a bad guy. Quirky, maybe, but bad.
SPEAKER_04:All right, yeah, Jay lost it. But um, you know, it's crazy because they say if you do like massive doses of vitamin C, that's not good for you. Oh, it's not good for you.
SPEAKER_01:That's that's one thing I did. Uh you apparently you can take too much vitamins, which I thought you just got stronger. I thought it was like like like you can stack buffs. That's what I thought. That's that's what I was thinking. You can't argue with that logic. That that's I thought I would just, you know, I would become immune. Extending it. Extending it. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. But no, apparently you can you can take too much. Yeah, take too much. Too much vitamin C. Too much vitamin D.
SPEAKER_04:Not not everybody.
SPEAKER_03:Somebody else takes way too much.
SPEAKER_04:All that. Alright, so I'm gonna give you a little backstory about uh Fritz Clinner. So Fritz was an odd child, quiet in public, but intense in private. Neighbors notice his obsessive fascination with guns, explosives, And military gear. By adolescence, Fritz was spinning um pretty much like elaborate lies, claiming connections to the CIA, secret missions, and heroic feats that were entirely fabricated. Oh shit. So his father's radical ideologies deeply influenced him. Like Dr. Clinner's racism, disdain for authority, and medical experiments became the foundation for Fritz's worldview. And pretty much to him, like the world was hostile. Like everyone was a potential enemy. And only he had the skill to survive pretty much.
SPEAKER_01:Like he was like What a crazy way to live.
SPEAKER_04:But see, the the thing is, his dad was like, like I said, a successful like doctor in this area. Like literally right here.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I can see it. And uh I guess he was like so caught up in like doing his thing that he never really spent the time to I guess be with him, maybe. Uh-huh. Okay. But he did always give them like gifts, like guns as a gift. Like that was their little way of bonding, I guess. Like just with guns. I bought you like a historic gun. Okay, okay. That's how he ended up becoming obsessed with the guns and everything. The light. But yeah, he was like, He, I don't know, bruh. He was just like, I guess, like I guess a bit schizophrenic or something. Right. He was just like an odd kid. You know? When you don't watch your kids, we're about to hit it like the old school commercial. Where are your kids? Where are your kids? Do like the little uh circle, the black, the optical illusion thing. You know what I'm talking about? Where are your kids?
SPEAKER_01:Like the mesmerizing one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, like the one, the Instagram short you sent me. Yeah, just like that one. Just like that one. Just like that one. I lost myself for a second right there. I was like, damn, they almost got me.
SPEAKER_04:On command, too, it's crazy. It's like, no way, right here at church. Alright, now we back. Alright, so obviously he felt like he was the only one that had the skills to survive or whatever. So stories from the neighbors painting like a chilling image, saying that Fritz was walking the streets, like dressed in military clothing, carrying rifles, sometimes talking to himself as though he was like on a mission or whatever. What the fuck? Is what some people claim. Okay. Uh it's pretty much like his ret reputation was like one of a quiet menace. I'm like, that kid's a little awesome. That dude's a little weird, not kids. The dude's a little weird. So that brings us to our next character, Susie Lynch.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:The bad girl of Kentucky, if you will. Okay. So meanwhile in Kentucky, Susie Newsom was growing up with her own complications. Bright, socially adept, and determined, Susie also had a fiery temp temper that earned her the reputation of a bad girl. So friends described her as a stubborn, bossy, and quick to lash out girl who got what she wanted through force or up through force, or by any means necessary, pretty much.
SPEAKER_01:I like that.
SPEAKER_04:Um so her family life was like strict, uh, creating tension and conflict. Susan Susie learned early to assert herself aggressively, which would later influence her relationships with men, authority figures, and eventually Fritz. So her marriage to Tom Lynch seemed promising but quickly soured. Constant arguments, emotional distance led to like a better divorce and a custody battle over their two children that they had. And by the time she encountered Fritz, Susie was angry, frustrated, and looking for someone who could protect her and her children from the world she believed was conspiring against her. Damn, okay. She actually like used to go to the clinic, like here to get her vitamin, uh, was it vitamin D? No, vitamin Vitamin C. Vitamin C shots. And that's where like they crossed paths because Fritz was actually going to um college. Like his dad wanted to put him through school and everything, but he ended up dropping out, and he told his father, yeah, you know, I graduated. They're gonna send the diploma through the mail type of thing. But the diploma never showed up, and then the dad was like, Well, where's the diploma? So he called the school and they're like, Yeah, he ended up dropping out, and he only needed like two more credits or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_01:That's what shit I do.
SPEAKER_04:He was almost done. And then he's I think the last thing he had to take was like a foreign language class. Damn, but he didn't do it, and so you know, the dad was like, Well, you know, I paid all this money or whatever. Pretty much to sum it all up, he ended up telling him just to work for him at the clinic. Okay, at his clinic, so that's what the son started doing, right? Okay, so that's when they ended up crossing paths with Susie and him. Like she came in to get her shot, and then like, you know, they talked a little bit and they got to know each other and stuff like that. It gets crazy, it gets crazy. So that's that's how they came to notice each other or talk to each other, right? All right, so Fate brought Susie to Reedsville where she met Fritz from the start. He projected confidence and knowledge, spinning elaborate tales of CIA work, covert operations, and enemies everywhere. Susie, emotionally raw from her divorce and custody struggles, found herself drawn down, believing he could protect her and her children. Neighbors noted their intense, almost magnetic connection, whispering about the odd, obsessive nature of the relationship. Friends of Susie remarked that she seemed changed, more secretive, more volatile, but also strangely exhilarated by the danger Fritz promised. So, a little fun fact. According to some people, well, they they're they're actually cousins. Like it became later known that they were actually cousins or something, so they were first cousins. Rumors go that they were dating. You know what I'm saying? Casual shit, really. This T is this T.
SPEAKER_03:This that a la prima si sarima or some shit like that. Whatever they say.
SPEAKER_01:Whatever it is they say, whatever rules they apply they abide by over him.
SPEAKER_03:My damn folks. Them savages, them animalis, those criminals.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, those fat traffickers.
SPEAKER_04:No, we just joking, yo. We just we just joking. That's right. You described me to a T. I'm a freak. But um, so that like I don't know how they were related, but it comes out that they are related somehow. And you know, obviously there was like speculations of it.
SPEAKER_01:Did they know they were related or I think so.
SPEAKER_04:I can't remember like they ended up figuring out that they were family or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. But all the way from Kentucky to over here, and they're related. Damn.
SPEAKER_04:I can't remember exactly how they were, but according to like reports and everything. Well, they share DNA. They share DNA. DNA is there. Somewhere.
SPEAKER_01:DNA is in her.
SPEAKER_04:No. Alright, so you know, obviously, Fritz was like pretty much like feeding her stuff, like, you know, they're gonna come out to get you. You know, the government's coming out to get you, or I can protect you from all the people that are that's the type of shit I do with the vulnerable shortitude.
SPEAKER_01:Really the res. When the riz works, the res works, you know. Oh, uh, stop answering your mom. Your mom, your mom plant against you. Stop, stop. You see the way she didn't circle.
unknown:Don't help your mom.
SPEAKER_01:Could communication with your mom, block your friends. You can't leave the house. I hold that house clean every time I get.
SPEAKER_04:It's all for your betterment. It's all for your help.
SPEAKER_01:Look, if you you step outside, if you step outside, they're gonna get you. They're looking for you. The police are gonna get you. You see that van that keeps driving by? It's literally me with the mask on.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's the way.
SPEAKER_06:He's waiting for you.
SPEAKER_04:I just know he is. It's like the same van I come from home, like come home from working, but it's like I take the mask off, my hair's all fucking.
SPEAKER_01:I call it when I'm on the way. Look, look, it's outside your house right there.
SPEAKER_03:It's usually me on the phone. Don't go out there, it's gonna get you.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, so this eventually led to Fritz obviously convincing her, I guess, or her convincing him that they need to get rid of like the the family, like their family. So basically what I was doing right now. Pretty much. Damn. So the first tragedies occurred in Kentucky targeting Susie's ex-husband's family. So this is Tom's family. Oh shit, okay. So they're like, you know, because I think she was like, you know, it was pretty much like the mother-in-law and her didn't get along. Like there was always big disputes, there were always fighting.
SPEAKER_01:As it is, as it is.
SPEAKER_04:Type shit. Really? Regular stuff, regular stuff. Mother-in-law and the daughter-in-law don't get along. Typical stuff, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Typical stuff, typical.
SPEAKER_04:I like his dick more than you do. I touched it first, type thing. It tastes better in my mouth, and shit.
SPEAKER_02:Shit like shit like that.
SPEAKER_04:Casual something thing. Casual. Um normal dinner and table talking about it. Normal dinner table, really. He eventually like said, you know, in order pretty much like in order for us to like keep your kids safe or protect them from the people that are trying to take them away from you, we're gonna have to kill your like your parents. Well, we can kill your husband's parents, you know, type shit. That way it don't go to them or something.
SPEAKER_01:Real little boy shit right there.
SPEAKER_04:Really? So investigators have arrived to find Dolores Lynch, Tom's mother, and Janie, Tom's sister, murdered. So Dolores oh wait, little uh quick disclaimer. It's gonna get a little graphic. Not too too graphic, but if you're like don't like hearing about this type of stuff, you can skip for maybe like three minutes or something like that. Okay. Before I get into details. And then she died. And then the blood. So Dolores had her throat slit, and it was pretty much like how do I skip this? So pretty much like the detectives like shocked.
SPEAKER_01:They were like, Dane, this looks personal because the amount of salves was like done and everything.
SPEAKER_04:Like, this looked a little personal and everything. And Janie was shot multiple times. But see, the thing is the house showed signs of a struggle, drawers opened, paper scattered, but nothing appeared to be stolen.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. So they're doing casual, like they're trying to set it up, like it's a robbery.
SPEAKER_04:But they never take anything.
SPEAKER_01:That's what you fuck up. You gotta take something.
SPEAKER_04:It says the faint smell of gunpowder lingered, and there were traces of cleaning agents, possibly bleach. So police described the scene as uh calmly horrific, not messy or chaotic, a carefully executed family execution. So the detective saw that there was like not really much of a forced entry indicating he either knew the killer or had been tricked into letting him in.
SPEAKER_01:And that's pretty much how the killer was like made it seem like I guess how would you say like um how they try to disguise the scene or like what happened?
SPEAKER_04:How they could like play the scene out to make it look like different than yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, the detective saw that and they're like, dang, who would do something like this? So obviously they thought, well, obviously it was the son. Right. Because the parents were like they had money, they're like done well for themselves, they made like a good name for themselves or whatever. And so they're like, obviously, he wanted the money from them, so they're like, We're gonna have to question. Right, right, right, right. First suspect.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the ex-husband's usual suspect.
SPEAKER_04:You know, I understand. I'm gonna be pointed as the suspect, but you know, he went in, did like he got his heat, uh, what is it called?
SPEAKER_01:The polygraph test and pretty much. I think that's what he did. Okay, okay, good.
SPEAKER_04:So he he checked and like everything cleared through, he was fine. Like they said, you know, he's telling the truth, he's not lying. I think he probably had like an alibi or something like that. And uh, so they were like, okay, who else would do it? And they were like, if it's not him, it's probably the wife.
SPEAKER_02:Type shit, right, right.
SPEAKER_04:So then they started keeping an eye on her, but they couldn't like really pin anything on her because they just didn't have any evidence. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_01:It was just speculation at that point, it could have been the wife, type shit. Okay, okay. But they just couldn't prove it. I just can't prove it. Right. Got that uh Dokes, got that Dokes age on him on her.
SPEAKER_04:So by May 1985, the violence moved to North Carolina. So Susie's parents, Susie's parents, John and Flora Newsome became the next victims. So John Newsome shot at close range, slumped in a chair, Flora Newsome with her throat slit, mirroring the earlier mur murder of Dolores Lynch, shell casings scattered across the floor, indicating mythological shooting, like okay, like yeah, yeah, yeah. So no robbery or personal items were touched. Um, and investigators were struck by like the cold uh nature of the murder. One detective said this wasn't passion, it was execution. Every move was deliberate, every victim targeted.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, cold.
SPEAKER_04:And neighbors were like horrified, you know, rumors circulated about Fritz's manipulation of Susie and about how dangerous she had become under his influence and stuff like that. So police began piecing together like the the whole thing. They were like, you know, this dude met her, and then he's getting involved and probably like telling her, like, you know, I could protect you and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:Touch it, shit. Same shit, I said really.
SPEAKER_04:So the whole time Fritz had like a bunch of like high-powered like rifles and oh, yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's right, that's right.
SPEAKER_04:Um so Fritz had amassed like assault rifles, pistols, and Uzi, and homemade explosives. Notes detailing CIA fantasies, paranoia, and plan for Susie's children. Witnesses confirmed Fritz's constant boasting of Cobra operation and Susie's full belief in him. Community fear was palpable. People who had known Fritz and Susie were shaken, a man of lines and a woman with a fiery temper had considered had conspired to kill an entire family. So everybody's like, that is.
SPEAKER_01:Sometimes, bro, sometimes you be hearing these cases, bro, and be right in front of them, and they they they like, nah, we don't know. We couldn't say it was them.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, so ultimately, like this led to like the the CIA got involved too. Well, the SBI, sorry. The SBI got involved, the Greensboro Police Department got involved, and then the husband had two detectives from Kentucky. I think they were probably like investigating him, or they were investigating into the case, but he told them, and then they came over here to help him.
SPEAKER_01:They started sharing the information type shit. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04:So they were gonna be part of like a stakeout or task force type stuff. Yeah, task force because they pretty much like had all the information they needed because they came across some dude named uh uh Jen Perkins, I think that's his name. Oh, okay. And this dude was like obsessed with Fritz, like he looked up to him, like because the dude kept saying, you know, I used to be CIA. Oh, yeah, that's right. So damn, so yeah, somebody just yeah, so he like fooled him, and that dude was like, every I can get you involved if you want me to.
SPEAKER_01:Bro, I need to be seeing someone like that can manipulate, bro. That's how I need I need a little henchman, bro. That's what I need, bro. A little Igor, little egor, bro, a loyal slave if you go ride that place. Fa fa fa. Don't tell them my detention because then they'll know the alien know. Right, they're gonna know. I drive up, I drive away. Oh shit. He just did it. Oh shit. Yo, you wildin'.
SPEAKER_03:Drove off. He's he's pulling at the door handle, I lock it and drive off. Okay, then he finally catches up, he managed to evade the police. You left me. It was a test. That's my part of your trade. How can I really trust you if I know you can't evade? You passed. Now, where's the money? Because I'm hungry. And Taco Bell just brought back the Mexican. Get in, doofus. You passed. Look at you, coats with. I remember my first time.
SPEAKER_01:I need someone I can manipulate, man.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but pretty much like so he had him like manipulated, like you said.
SPEAKER_01:Poor dude, bro. God damn.
SPEAKER_04:And so he heard about everything that was going on, and I think he came up to the police himself. It's like, you know, I was involved in like taking him to certain places or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Oh shit, yeah, she came in.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the dude was telling him like this is part of the mission. Right. You have to take him here, you have to help me do this, or whatever. And so he did because he he thought he was gonna be like sent to like a training place to become a CIA.
SPEAKER_01:But thought he was going.
SPEAKER_04:You need to be part of these murders. Don't don't worry about nothing. Don't ask no questions, just be there. Do you want to be part of the CIA or not? Hey, bruh. Gullible people, bruh. There's some gullible people out there. Oh and so the police are pretty much like, you know, uh, he didn't even strike like no type of deal. He just said, if there's any way I can I can help, I can help you. So they pretty much gave him like a wire to like try and get him to confess.
SPEAKER_03:The real missing. Yeah, the real medicine. He's ever sweating and brain.
SPEAKER_04:He's like, I'm finally a part of something big, I'm finally gonna do something good.
SPEAKER_01:You know, he was in front of the mirror on my training. All my training was for this.
SPEAKER_04:All right, let me just sum up what happened to him. Go ahead, bro. My bad. So no, you good, you good. So he eventually ended up getting the Fritz guy to admit that he was like on tape. It pretty much like did everything. Or like he got him to admit that he was like, you know, I'm not gonna, I'm gonna tell the police, I'll write a pay like a report or a statement saying you had no part in it, you thought you were doing good. Oh, okay. Oh, he didn't that he deceived them or he that he was like telling him wrong and stuff like that. Oh shit, he actually did that. He did that to like pretty much like clear him of being associated with that's what he said. And they he actually did end up writing that because the police ended up finding the report or the statement that said he had no business in this pretty much, or whatever, you know, pretty much summing it up.
SPEAKER_01:Respectable.
SPEAKER_04:So they finally had like the information they needed, they finally had something they could pin on him where he admitted I'm not gonna say you're you're a part of it, even though pretty much saying, like, yeah, I did it, pretty much. And so they were gonna use that against him. So they set up like a whole sting operation type of thing. They were like gonna get him at um I think they were like staking out at the people's house, at Fritz's house, because Susie was there and they had the two children with her, her two children, and they had called saying if uh Fritz was around, she was like, No, he's not around, or whatever. I think that's how it played out. And then um the police were you know just waiting, chilling, waiting to like finally like be able to like jump in and get him that way they didn't want to ambush while the kids were around because they didn't want nothing to happen to the kids or anything. Okay, okay. So that's where they were being like taxes, yeah. And so they ended up getting like a phone call from I think undercovers, like an unmarked vehicle saying they got in a blazer, they loaded the kids, they took the dogs because they had like two chow chows or whatever, or yeah, two big dogs, and they loaded the dogs. Susie got in the blazer, he got in the blazer, and they just took off. And so everybody was like pretty much like fuck, we gotta go. Right, right, right. We're gonna chase him down or whatever. And he realized he was being like followed and everything, and uh, you know, he was driving crazy. They said according to some reports, he exceeded 100 miles per hour, and it was getting crazy, bro. He started like he had an oozy and he was just blasting at the police officers, bro. Just with the kids in the car, yeah. Hosting what the fuck? So he ended up wounding one of the police officers. It wasn't like a direct hit, it was more like Shrapnel. Probably shrapnel, or some people claim that it was like from the impact. Like, since the police officer had a vest on.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04:Or probably hit him, but it hit him, but you know, they said you still feel the force, yeah. You can still break break a rib or something like that. So he was hurt from it and everything. And they had managed to box him in. And um the dude managed to get unboxed and everything, and you know, they didn't want to shoot at him because they had the kids in car and everything like that. And so he managed to get away. And this is a whole cops episode. He had like he started like taking off, and they had like pursuited him again and everything like that.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, bro.
SPEAKER_04:What the oh, brother Rush was still doing oh, so they were like shooting at him, they were shooting back at him too, but they were trying to like aim a certain way to like.
SPEAKER_01:So they want to hit the kids, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um they're better than me. What ended up happening was uh I think uh what happened? I think they managed to box him in again or something like that. And the dude didn't want to surrender to the police. So I'm not mistaken, I think he got out. But before he got out, like the police said that they heard like two doom doom. And then they uh I think he got out, and as he was getting out, the fucking blazer just explodes, like the whole car just explodes, bro. Like that's the way this the whole space chase ends. So Fritz unwilling to surrender detonated a homemade explosive inside the blazer. The aftermath was catastrophic. Fritz and Susie dead, the two boys killed instantly. The blazer reduced to twisted burning metal. A note was found on the victims detailing Fritz's delusions and justification for the murder murders. Dogs loyal to the family were nearby, some injured, barking in confusion. Um, wait, dogs loyal to the family. I thought the dogs died. I think the dogs died, if I'm not mistaken. And like some like a detective said, it looked like a battlefield, like twisted metal, fire, and bodies of family trapped by delusion paranoia.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, so that was fucking crazy.
SPEAKER_04:I I I didn't expect that. So pretty much like when it exploded They said that uh they said that either the theory is that the mom ended up shooting the kids before he got out the car, before they blew it up. But he had also given the kids like cyanide poisoning. Like the kids, though. Yeah, because he was like a doctor, so he had like access to all that stuff, because his dad had passed away too, and he was using his dad's license to like purchase like prescription stuff or like buy medicines and stuff like that. And um he gave the kids a cyanide, and then like I said, according to some theories, they say that the mom shot the kids because she didn't want the ex-husband to have the kids, so she was like, I'm just gonna take them with me, type of deal. Damn, bruh. So she killed them, and then that's when she blew up. Like that's when the whole vehicle blew up, but the bomb was underneath her seat. So whenever she blew up, like the bottom part of her body was like gone, like everything was just like mangled and stuff like that. It was bad. And they said that they found the dude, Fritz, was like blown away, like freaking launch far away.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And so when the detectives got got up real quick and started running towards him, they were trying to like get a confession. They're like, Can you hear me? Can you hear me? And the dude just looked at him and he was just like choking in his blood and everything. He just ended up dying because of he succumbed to his injuries or whatever, whatever. And um it was crazy, bro, because like eventually they went to like his house, and that's when they found like freaking all types of like high-powered weapons, they found like a shitload of bullets, they found like Nazi propaganda, they found like all this other stuff, like crazy stuff, notes that he had. Like I said, like the notes he had about the CIA, him saying he was part of secret missions and stuff like that. And um what else happened? That was pretty much it, I think. But the guy that he had manipulated, he ended up having to do time too because the court had said he was an accessory to the case. He didn't even strike a deal before confessing. Uh he didn't strike a deal before confessing.
SPEAKER_03:He didn't so he ended up doing like a couple years. Don't confess what the fuck? But I'll do anything. I'll talk. I'll talk. This is easy. Motherfucker, you gotta cut it down, my boy.
SPEAKER_04:I ain't getting no McDonald's, I ain't talking. Oh so he ended up doing like a couple years. He was supposed to do a couple years, but he ended up getting probation after six months.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Sorry, he was in jail for like a couple months, and then the rest of his sentence he served doing probation.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Damn, at least I ain't doing that dirty, bro. You know, something not right with them, you know.
SPEAKER_04:The only reason they did that like that is because like he like the judge was like, Yes, he was a part of it, but he was willing to like yeah, he was willing to like help.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, yeah, he was.
SPEAKER_04:He was willing to try and uh correct this wrong, I guess I'd say. Even though he was in the wrong, right? He still wanted to correct this. So they just like, all right, you know, we'll give him a couple years, you know, he does a couple months in jail and then let him do the rest of them properly.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, bro. Poor homie, but that minion, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, minion. But yeah, bruh, like this happened, like the speed chase was like down in Greensboro. I think they said it was coming from like Friendly Avenue or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_01:Oh shit through Friendly, damn.
SPEAKER_04:Like it ended like in Summerfield or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_01:Damn.
SPEAKER_04:And there's like a whole book about it. Like this one dude wrote like a whole book, and he goes like in the deep details about the family, like about the father, Susie's father, how he came into like a good position with his life and everything like that. The mother, how she became like an important figure, too, uh, about Susie's childhood, how hood, how she was growing up, like she was like just bad temper, you know, she was just a bad child. Then it talks about Fritz's dad. I think they might have been from Germany or some shit like that, and then they came here to where we're at.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, bro, all the way over here with that racist shit.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, bro, that's crazy. And then uh Yeah, yeah, I forgot the name of the book, but it's like a whole it's like a whole case, bro. I can't do it like them. I can't do it like them true crime podcasts can do it real good, bro.
SPEAKER_01:But that's bro, that was good though, but you had me intrigued. Intrigued at the edge of my seat, you know, it's laying back, but damn, but I I I expect I ain't expect Holy Go out like that though.
SPEAKER_04:So the book is called Bitter Blood by Jerry Bledso Bledsoe. Okay, it's like the actual book, like that person did like research, reports, hello, hella, hella reports, did like the interviews and everything like that, so they have like a better um understanding of everything. They actually made like a movie, it inspired like TV shows and stuff. For real. Oh shit. The best of the families, marriage, pride, and madness. So I was gonna watch it, but I was like, bruh, I just doing research on it today. So literally it's like hours of research that I got to do. I didn't really have time to complain.
SPEAKER_01:To go too crazy with it. But that was good though. For hours of research, bro, that was good, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Because they have like in inspired movies and shows, like I said. So if y'all want to look it up, look up bitter blood murder.
SPEAKER_01:I might have to look it up, bro, because just by just by what you were telling me, but that shit was good, but that shit had me intrigued, bro. The ending, the ending was crazy. That poor that poor dude. Felt bad for poor dude with the minion, bro. That that was a poor henchman, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Hold on, I'm gonna have I have pictures of it. This is the picture of the explosion.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's summer field right there. That shit blew up, bro.
SPEAKER_04:That shit blown up everywhere, freaking parts everywhere. Not people parts, but like car parts, car parts and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Debris.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, there you go. Debris.
SPEAKER_01:At least it was out there, but at least no other people got hurt.
SPEAKER_04:I wish I had a better picture, but yeah, that's it right there, bro. This is a really good thing. Like, not a good thing that happened, but a really good book or whatever. Um, I just wanted to look at it because you know I wanted to find something that was more local. Yeah. I wanted to do paranormal, but no, that's good though. Uh uh. According to some people, all right, this is how it's linked with that haunted place over there. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Oh, yeah, that's right. So, according to some people, the place is still haunted. Okay. They said you can hear like a doctor uh saying, like, what are you doing here? or Oh like just whispers. Okay, okay. And you can see like orbs and stuff like that, or you hear like footsteps and things like that. And uh some people believe that uh Fritz had killed the nurse, like an assistant nurse that used to work there. Oh shit, okay. And they say you could hear her footsteps or hear her inside the building. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it is what some people say and stuff like that. It's pretty crazy, bruh. Like there was this one person that did like a whole investigation thing there. But I can't remember the name of them. But I thought it was pretty cool. They literally went over and did an investigation.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that is dope. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:That's pretty much that, bro. My bad. I couldn't structure it that good.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like I think that was very, very well structured. It had a good flow to it and everything.
SPEAKER_04:I'll do better next time. You know, give me give me a week to prepare, and I promise I'll bring a better banger next time.
SPEAKER_01:That was good, bro. Damn, bro. That end the end was crazy. Still with that poor dude.
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, bro, it was like a whole chase they did.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, bro. Who would've thought, bro? Who'd have thought from Lil O'Ville, bro?
SPEAKER_04:Had a whole high speed chase and everything just for damn blowing up, bro.
SPEAKER_01:That's just crazy. Damn, bro. Damn. Crazy, crazy, crazy. That was good though. Such for the kids, though.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I know, bro. That does suck right there. You hate to hear it, bro. It's a crazy world out there. Let's go ahead and head into the FFF. Well, before we do, y'all let me know if y'all have any information about it. Obviously, I know I don't have everything down to details, but if y'all have any more interesting details about it or information about it, uh let us know at Cosmic Cove at K-O-S-M-I-C underscore C-O-V-E. On Instagram or on TikTok, you know. Um, I guess it's gonna lead off to the next subject then.
SPEAKER_00:Fear is it all in your mind, or could it be real? Welcome to fear, fact or fiction.
SPEAKER_01:So in in the spirit of Halloween, and true spirit of Halloween. In true spirit of Halloween, the topic for FFF is should I tell? I was checking, well, yeah, never mind, because I didn't no, I had another idea, but I didn't I didn't uh uh run it by you. So um so when we talk about zombies, just basically, you know, just just just just it it's a broad topic, it's a broad topic. So I picked just a couple of the most popular, just a couple facts or like just popular zombie modes, zombie uh zombie types, different type of I did the same thing. Okay, okay, good, good. So shit to the zombies, more than what I thought uh what what what I knew. I I I didn't think that was I I didn't think that was that that broad, that uh that crazy, but um, so yeah, so uh it's a good subject, man.
SPEAKER_04:It's a good yeah. Halloween, zombies, that goes good together. Come on now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I was thinking I was like for the other ones we could do like we can do witch. I was thinking about mummies too and vampires. That's that's all that's because I was thinking about either one of those was not how skeletons came about too. Because skeletons, you know.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:But uh, I don't think that's much of a of a um cryptid or or like a creature, more as I think it's just decorations, really, or just but yeah, so just in case, in case you've been under the rock and don't don't know what a zombie is.
SPEAKER_04:Everybody loves zombies.
SPEAKER_01:Uh you said Kimpeo uh with the zombie? The well they got a couple, never mind. They got they got a couple zombie uh zombie skids. But okay, so a zombie, in its broadest sense, it's a person who has lost his or her sense of self-awareness and identity and cares only for the destruction and often consumption of any human around, no matter what their circumstances or cost to his or herself. They make up for this loss of intelligence in sheer numbers, as the state of zombieism is almost always contagious and spread virtue oh what is that word? Sounding fucking forest gum. Varminly. I don't know what that word is. What you think that word is?
SPEAKER_04:Uh veroonly, varoonly, varulantly. Veroonly, baby. I guess I don't know what the hell that word means.
SPEAKER_01:I mean varoonly right there. At a devastating cost to surround society. Technically speaking, true zombies are always dead and reanimated. Technically speaking. So the generic zombie is a person who has been killed and reanimated by either dwamoturgy or pathogen, often but not always due to a virus. They're usually aggressive, they can be curious but disoriented, and at a loss to fully understand their environment. For the most part, they are usually resistant to damage and rot despite their undead state. Their most notable trait is their hunger for living flesh. So that's just a zombie, just a regular, just a regular regular old Joe of what uh of what a zombie is. If y'all uh real quick, do you have any favorite uh zombies you could say? Like movies or uh just zombies that you really the types?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, or like like um I like the classic ones, like the ones that like you like walkers, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, yeah, in the terms of like uh Walking Dead, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, that's that's where it came from. Yeah, that's where they started off the walkers. Because the original zombies, I think they were just called uh The Undead. That's uh uh I got him in the notes, hold on. That Romero dude. Um Night of the Dead, so shit like that.
SPEAKER_04:Night of the Living Dead?
SPEAKER_01:Night of the Living Dead, yeah. I think that was the original or the first uh the first zombie movie. So the Romero, I had it here. I had it here, I'll get to him. Um okay, you like those? For me, I I ain't gonna lie, bro. I like it just I wouldn't like to live in this universe, but for me, uh I like runners. Okay. I like the fast ones, bro, because I feel like that's oh, but like that, now now we're talking about a threat. You feel me? Because I can't not not too dense on walkers, but I'll be seeing walkers. I'm like, I walk right past the I walk like how'd you get like how y'all get caught? Like that's that's for me. I know it's like it's it's it's in movies or in TV shows when they got walkers. I'm like, how did they take over? Like, how's the military now? Like, how do we got how do we not have a military? It's just walkers, you know. With the with the runners, I can kind of see it more, especially like on uh World War Z, you know, when they were going crazy. I I would hate, I would hate to live in that universe.
SPEAKER_04:Or like some Iron Legends shit.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, some Iron Legends shit, bro.
SPEAKER_04:That came out at night.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, bro.
SPEAKER_04:That but no, that's good though. I like that. Runners is a good one. That's a good one.
SPEAKER_01:That I just feel like I said, I would I'm not saying I would love to live in that universe because I give up zombies. I give yeah, that's that's a that's a good zombie. And then and then we got these other types we're gonna get into, but um so that was a generic zombie. Uh so here, off the top, I knew you were gonna say this because I'm I'm from the future. Walkers. They may not be as immediately threatening as runners, but they tend to attack in groups and have outstanding durability, which makes them a major threat to humans. Walking zombies can be found in series such as The Walking Dead, Night of the Living Dead, and to a certain extent, World World War Z. Uh, since I talk about walkers, might as well talk about runners. Uh runner zombies are zombies that have the ability to run at a full sprint. This ability separates them in dealing with them and in classifications so much that leading minds disagree whether they should be even be considered zombies at all. What you think about that? About that controversial statement.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think there should be anything controversial about it because I mean zombies doesn't necessarily mean that it could only be a walker. I feel like as long as it's undead or it's affected by like a pathogen or something, right? Then it's a zombie.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_01:That's that's what I can do. As long as they're dead. Yeah, or in a sense, or not, or their brain is their brain is not controlling. That's that's what I consider it. Then that's a zombie battery. Yeah, okay, okay, good. Okay. So fast effect, they quickly gain ground on survivors and break them down, attacking them in a frenzied manner. And survivors should never try to outrun the runners, since they do not tire like humans do. That's that's what that would have got me right there. I'll give up. So there's proposed runners are newly made zombies that have not begun the process of decaying yet, and therefore still have most human capabilities. The only way to stop them from running is to disable their legs through severe serp-severing, severing large muscle groups, major bones, or completely uh severing their legs. Other than that, the only way is to outright eliminate them. In some zombie settings, these guys are the norm, but in other more traditional settings uh where slow shambling zombies are the norm, these guys are pretty much considered class or specialized zombies all on their own. They aren't as shrewd or cunning as stalkers, but they make up for it with speed. They are extremely hazardous in typical zombie situations since survivors are frequently caught off guard when one or one or a pack of them start sprinting after them when they anticipate zombies to be sluggish moving, uh, interrupting their usual anti-zombie methods developed over years of fighting the undead. Um just a little bit more information. The runners are technically living infected, but are still a form of zombies. Um what they gain in speed and fervor over their slower cousins, they lose in their ability as they can be killed by wounds to the chest, bleeding out, thirst starvation, or even the infection itself. Um but obviously that just that that depends what kind of universe or like where they come from, because uh there's some zombies. Apparently, you can't you you gotta kill them a certain way. Headshots don't work on them, stuff like that, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:Um but yeah, uh I remember the first runners I encountered were uh the ones on Dying Light.
SPEAKER_04:Those were you thought that parkour was crazy when they doing the parkour right behind you? That shit crazy. You look bad, you look bad.
SPEAKER_01:Motherfucker just hopping up like, oh, but they on your ass, bro. Dying light to this day is one of the best uh zombie games.
SPEAKER_05:It's a good one. It is good.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but that's uh that's it for the uh runners. Uh wanna keep going?
SPEAKER_04:Oh, real quick. Um oh no, I had oh, zombies. I don't know if you have it in your notes or not, but obviously you have like humans who are zombies, but you also have zombies, zombie animals. Yeah, was that a variant thing? Yeah, that that I gotta get, but you can you can say if you want to. Oh no, I was just throwing that out there. Yeah, I don't have no details about it. Yeah, I got to so people know like it's not just people, but you also have like the zombie thing, I throw your whole notes off, bro.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, no, you good, bro. Yeah, yeah, I got I got them right here. So I just want to make sure I did have them just in case you asked stuff.
SPEAKER_04:So the zombie animals is pretty much like the same thing, but affecting animals. So they're like they're gonna be undead, um just more aggressive, I guess, so to say.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, more feral. They're they're they are more feral, more, yeah, like you said, more more aggressive. Um, and I didn't know this, but apparently with the with the zombie animals, they got a whole nother oh, they have like different types of different versions. Yeah, I didn't go that crazy into them.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay. I was about to say, bruh, but I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because I got but it's it's it's a it's a lot. I had to cut my north my nose shorts because I was I was like, bro, I'm gonna be talking about this like the whole the whole the whole episode. Um but yeah, they're so because I saw like I was going towards like I was scrolling and I saw okay, animals, and I saw that's like a whole no list. I said, Yeah, they don't need all this. It's basically the same thing as human zombies, um, but it also involves their respective worlds, um, like the universe, what what all they got going on in their universe and stuff like that. Um but yeah, they got that they got different types.
SPEAKER_04:They got real quick question for The Last of Us, would that be considered a zombie, or is that more like uh because it's essentially like a I mean I know it's a fungus, but it's like a hive mind fungus. But would that be a zombie then or what would you classify that?
SPEAKER_01:I think that's still a zombie.
SPEAKER_04:It'd be like a former zombie, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You can't save them from um um there's there's just one type of zombie that that in the notes I found, like that you can actually there's a chance of you being able to save them. And that's the ones that are uh intelligent. Uh not intelligent, but the voodoo voodoo zombies.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, the Haitian voodoo.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so if they go under a curse or spell or something like that, that's usually how those zombies are created. Um there is a chance to save them after you kill the the caster or the witch that uh because usually those zombies they're not um like regular zombies where they just you know once they get infected, it starts like affecting other people and biting other people. Oh, that's the other thing too. I saw that uh it depends on the world also. Some if you get bit, you die. If you get bit, you turn into a zombie. Because you know how some movies they if they get bit, they die.
SPEAKER_06:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:And that's where I get confused sometimes because I was like, how come he, how come he died, and that dude got bit and he got and he got turned, you know. So it also has to do with the movie, you know, or like the show, the universe, you know, obviously armor, stuff like that, you know.
SPEAKER_04:That makes sense. What I like is that they say the zombies have like super strength. Yeah. They're super strong, they're resilient. Like you could hit them with the baseball bat, they'll probably like fall over, but they'll get back up. They'll keep going, yeah. Yeah, they'll keep going. Yep. Which is is really cool. But um also like like I said, the super strength. So like if they manage to like pin you down, they'll like freaking rip your whole stuff. Oh no, they pin me down. Oh no, no.
SPEAKER_03:You in me. They in me right now. They're taking at me, they're digging at me. Last thing I say before I get in. They digging in me.
SPEAKER_01:That's the other thing, too, because you know how some of them they just get bit, other people get ate. So I'm like, so I'm like, well, how how y'all pick which one? Uh but that that all depends. Uh that all depends uh in what world, because uh regular in most common worlds, if you get bit, you go and turn. You gonna turn.
SPEAKER_04:Well, they say it's like the the virus or the virus one, yeah. That's virus.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_04:In the saliva, yeah. The saliva gets in your bloodstream and alters your black blood cells or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:That yeah, and then you're gonna come back. Like we yeah, because like the the Haitian ones, um, they don't be attacking like just random people. Oh sure. They they got like their goal or like a person they're supposed to attack, and there's a chance that after they do whatever they gotta do, the spell wears off and they just they just like come back. There's a chance. There's that's a chance.
SPEAKER_05:Damn.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, those are the only ones that I know that can in a sense save them. And what were we saying? The last of us, I think that's uh that's a zombie. Yeah, that's a zombie because I guess maybe. I mean, the person's not really it's not there. It is people, uh-huh. It is infected by like a fungal virus, yeah. Yeah, because but they let us know what y'all think. He's not there, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I like that.
SPEAKER_01:Alright. Um, here we go. Why we do that? All right, the Romero zombies are the zombies features of the films of George A. Romero. Romero's vision pioneered modern understanding of a zombie and walks hand in hand with a generic zombie. Additionally, his works not only catapulted the concept of zombies into modern consciousness, but also defined the term as we use it today. These zombies are slow, unintelligent, react to light and sound, harbor an insatiable hunger for living flesh, and are killed by having their brains destroyed. One difference between the two is the cost of the zombies, which Romero keeps intentionally vague. Um, perhaps the more notable difference, however, is that in Romero's fiction, any human who dies is reanimated as a zombie. Zombie bites are merely a disease-ridden enhance kill the victim. But it is death that causes zombification, not the bite. In this way, uh uh the walking dead zombies are similar to Romero zombies. Um Romero zombies are capable of threatening, adapting, and perhaps even contemplating the broader implications of their actions. So they still get they still got a little bit of a intelligence. Yeah, intelligence. There you go. Intelligence. Have you watched that movie? Oh, I've never seen that movie. No, no, you seen it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, we gotta watch it. You seen it? Yeah, I went to theaters to watch it.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, for real?
SPEAKER_04:It's like an old movie. Yeah, yeah. Like Night of the Living Dead is like a black and white movie. So I went to the theater in Burlington because they they do something this month. This whole month, I think. Oh, they're doing the uh they do like old movies, they rerun old movies. Well, at least when I went, they were doing that for the whole month, or maybe like two weeks of the month. Okay, okay. Because they redid Night of the Living Dead, then they replayed Nightmare on Elm Street with Freddie Krueger, they did the thing, and then they did another movie. I can't remember. Probably like Friday 13th or something like that. Dad, it's a bangers. But you could go to the movie theater and they'll play like the old, so it gives you like the old classic feel, like when the movie first came out, type of thing. That's where I went to watch it.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. That's nice. But what you think of the movie, though? The movie was good.
SPEAKER_04:The movie was good.
SPEAKER_01:I just hate the ending. I got I got the ending right here. Oh, do you I got some of the plot, but I ain't gonna talk about that. Um so yeah, that's that's a zombie that's from uh George A. Romero's uh zombies. Uh wanna keep going? You had to another type of zombie ish are ghouls. Except that they spread radiation when attacking. They are victims of nuclear radiation, which rots away their brains to the point of making them feral, and only determined to do one thing attack anyone who is not affected by the radiation. Ghouls are most well known in Fallout series. Fallout 4, to be precise, the best Fallout ever. Um can't argue with that. So here's where I start getting the different, you could say the different types or where they start getting unique in their hold on before you. Go ahead, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Go ahead, bro. I'm gonna describe like the different types of infections. Okay. Oh, different types of infections. Oh, sure. Like, how would you get the zombie virus? Okay, okay, go ahead. How would it start? Go ahead. You know what I'm saying? So in some zombie fiction, the infection spreads in like different ways. One of the ways is like bites or fluid transfer. So most common in movies, viruses or pathogens are transmitted like through blood or saliva, uh, airborne pathogen, virus in the air. Um, magical control, no real infection, sorcery binds the zombie to a master, uh, consumption of infected tissue, eating zombie flesh in some stories spreads the disease, experimental or supernatural, laboratory viruses, chemical exposure, or necromatic rituals. It's like different ways that they get the whole thing.
SPEAKER_01:Usually it's a virus, though. Usually, yeah, usually um that ritual was like the like the like the Jamaican on the Haitian um one. Um it's it's crazy. I like how the different little different little ties you you can get. Or bath salt.
SPEAKER_04:And this is for real. Bath salt will turn you into a fucking zombie, so don't fucking do it. Make you rip your partner's face off.
SPEAKER_03:Face ID. You're gonna be looking like Dwight with that whole face mask on it. Oh shit, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Uh why does the skin feel so good? This the skin feels good on my cold skin. So we got crawlers, infamous crawlers. Y'all slept on crawlers, right? You you sleep on crawlers, you get your ankle, you get your ankles taken out. I admit it. I died to a crawler in the Call of Duty zombies before. I admit it. They they got they got my ankles. So, also known as halfers, chopped, and ankle biters. Crawlers, damn, just call a zombies chopped. Motherfucking chopped. Look at crawlers are well-known and very annoying type of zombie. Crawlers are completely disabled in their lower bodies and cannot walk or run like other types of undead. They can be disabled through muscle servering or leg severing. Uh, is that how you say severing? Severing. Severing. There you go. I was like servering, severing. Crawlers can also have their legs crushed by a heavy object or car. Crawlers must support their upper torso with their arms and must crawl along on the ground slowly to move to their desired destination. Due to their low profile, they are harder to spot as well as their low speed makes them uh a highly dangerous zombie if not pay attention to. The second uh one neglects to pay attention, they can be taken down by a crawler. And nobody wants to get taken down by a crawler. Um, so the zombie can latch onto the survivor's leg and bite down infectant as well as maybe disabling their leg. It can also launch at you from a few meters away, aiming for the head or the brain. So uh, yeah, that's those are crawlers. Um I'm trying to remember if uh if Don Light had crawlers. I don't think Don Light had crawlers, did they? I don't know, I don't recall. Because I mean the the the disabling in that game is so good because for the runners, you could you could chop at the legs to to make them stuck. Because that's what what I would do, because once you activate too many runners, bro, you got like 15 of them running after you. What about the the volatiles?
SPEAKER_04:You can't do nothing to them. Minus the UV like that's it, you better run. That's it, bro.
unknown:You better run.
SPEAKER_04:I seen this one dude, it was like a small clip. This dude was like out in the pitch black. All you saw was like the eyeballs. The other one, yeah. I was like, no, I could feel the hair on my like the back of my body. Bro, I get that sensation.
SPEAKER_01:Uh I'm over here. Bro, I get if none of y'all have ever played uh Dying Light, even Dying Light one holds up to this day. Um give that a try. You you think you're hot shit playing that game as soon as that night hitch. Yeah, but I tell you what, I have never in my life ran so bad to light. Turn that volume up. Don't be a bitch. Don't be a bitch. Yeah, turn that volume up, bro. Play that shit with the headset, lights off. I guarantee you. Oh, but it is, it is. That's probably one of the closest.
SPEAKER_04:Like you, you I um it plays on a like a fear, like it plays on like uh not anxiety, a phobia, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like it's a feeling. I felt anxiety for that thing, but I don't feel like I need to get prescribed something after after that because it's the way that it's not even the way they look, it's the how quick they move. Like I don't know. That's one of the games where I I've legit said like, oh shit, and actually meant it like I wanna I don't want to be here no more. I I I admit it. I skipped whole night missions. If I'm gonna do the night mission, I'm not doing the night mission. I don't, I I just stick to my I say to my daylight, uh night night missions are not for me. I I I guess I I got scared, I admit it. I got I I get scared and I'm not running that shit at night.
SPEAKER_05:Bro, I don't blame you, bro.
SPEAKER_04:That shit that shit is pretty horrifying, bro.
SPEAKER_01:So now that you said that, the volatiles, I think that would be considered a brute. Okay. Just as I expected it. So brutes. Brutes, the tower, towering monstar monstrosities of the undead horde, strike terror into the hearts of survivors. These lumbering giants often exhibit grotesquely enhanced muscle mass and towering stature, making them imposing figures among the undead hordes. While some brutes move at a slow and deliberate pace, others defy expectations with surprising bursts of speed, adding an element of unpredictability of unpredictability to their encounters. Their devastating power makes them formidable foes. Brutes can deal far more damage than their lesser kin, making it imperative for survivors to approach them with extreme caution. Engaging brutes in battle uh necessitates powerful or automatic firearms. As conventional weapons may prove ineffective, taking them down swiftly becomes a matter of life and death. Certain brutes may exhibit unique adaptations such as reinforced bones or an increased resistance to certain forms of damage. They may also display residual signs of their former lives, like tattered remnants of clothing or insignia, offering a chilling reminder of their human past. Um they're seen and left for dead. These zombies are mutated, uh, possibly through stairways or bodybuilding uh regimen during life, and are strong enough to throw cars and even rip chunks of concrete out of grounds to kill survivors. Um decides to battle these zombies proceed with entire with either powerful or automatic firearms because they will take them out faster. So that's that's that's definitely a brute. Those are definitely brutes. I forgot about Left 4 Dead. That's I that's that's really uh that's a good game too. But I think for me, out of all the zombie games, I think the volatile still Yeah, no, I agree.
SPEAKER_04:Like it did have a special place in our heart. Like Left 4 Dead was a really good game.
SPEAKER_01:It was especially with France, cult classic, right there. Cult classic, really, honestly. Especially like I said, especially with friends. But the volatiles, it just brought another another because they didn't have a night, nothing different happened tonight, did they? On Left 4 Dead?
SPEAKER_04:Uh, you did go like in the malls and stuff like that, and it was like dark, so you had that flashlight, I think.
SPEAKER_01:But that was about it though, right? Did it have like uh something crazy coming after you at night? Because they had runners too, didn't they?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, like pretty much all of them were runners.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Minus the special ones. But did you have that clown area, the circus area?
SPEAKER_01:I may have not got that far.
SPEAKER_04:That would have been Left 4 Dead 2. It might have been DLC.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I think so. I can't remember.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, I still I still give it. I I know the ones that can throw stuff at you, but but I still give it to the volatile, so I don't I don't want to mess with them. Uh, did you have anything with them to keep going? No, you can keep going. Okay. So, next up, something like the brutes, a little different. We got the armored zombies. They're the remnants of once disciplined soldiers and sword officers who now shamble forth, clad in their old protective gear. These undead soldiers possess a level of resilience that sets them apart from regular zombies, particularly when it comes to withstanding firearm attacks. Frequently, they serve in inadvertently or unintentionally as shields to shield more fragile zombies situated behind them. Creating a formidable barrier for survivors to reach, survivors find themselves confronted with the grim choice when facing armored zombies. Um make you expand precious ammunition to pierce their formidable defense or device or tentative strategies to navigate around these walking fortresses.
SPEAKER_04:Um, that's the ones I was like.
SPEAKER_01:Like a juggernaut suit or some shit like that. That's what that's that's what I was thinking. Because all the times all the times are I mean, they they're just souped up, really. I think it was just just a special that's just different. That's just um okay. Also, what you got the hassmat. Has met suit wearing zombies are commonly former doctors and scientists who got turned into members of zombie horde when the apocalypse struck. I never thought about that. Like low key, they were the ones helping helping the people when they got bit, huh? Dang. They're usually distinguished from other zombie variants by the fact that they typically wear uh remnants of their protective suits left over their bodies, which protects them from environmental hazards, most notably fire. Their immunity from fire-based attacks makes flamethrowers and Molotov cocktails ineffective and useless when killing off these zombies. Sometimes they can be seen having gas tanks attached to their backs, which will explode with a shot, making somewhat of a variant to the exploders. Due to the fact that it should completely cover their face, they cannot see everything well or even bite a survivor upon lunging at them, but will instead rely on their headbutting attacks and various punches to kill a survivor. I never thought about that. I never think of that either. I I never I honestly never thought about that. There's really uh in Dying Light, also that's they don't bite you. They just grab you. Yeah, they grab you and hit you on every. I never thought about that. That's actually pretty cool. Alright, I got uh how long we got on one hour and thirty-two minutes. Oh shit, okay. All right, this is gonna be on the last one, yeah. Um, so stalkers, a certain type of zombie called Stalkers, also known as ferals or hunters, embody the zombie predatory instincts to a chilling degree. These agile and quick witted undead creatures love to lurk in the shadows, setting ambushes and pouncing on unsuspecting survivors with ruthless efficiency. Their movements are more akin to bestial predators, often seen stalking an all. Force, but the reason for this behavior is still unclear. Some speculate their brains have degraded so much that they have reverted to animal-like movement. These zombies are challenging to hit with ballistic weapons, faster than typical walkers, but slower than runners. Their low profile makes them difficult to spawn in tall grass or dark areas, and their reduced intelligence causes them to attack any living creature they see, except for other zombies of their kind. Their high and predatory nature grants them a modicum modicum of intelligence, allowing them to strategize and adapt, making them a perpetual threat to survivals. Sharp claws and teeth mutations, while not universal, further uh accentuate their lethal capabilities. In some cases, pharaohs display the unnerving ability to crawl on walls and ceilings, effectively turning the world into their hunting ground. Starkers also exhibit predatory like behavior and have been observed and pushing and pouncing on the suspecting survivors. I hate those. I ain't gonna lie.
SPEAKER_04:Those look like the jockeys, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the jockeys. Yeah, the jockeys, bro. I hate those, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's pretty crazy right there, bro. Imagine, bro. You got like five of them. One of them gets your attention, you're like, oh, there he is. And then you turn your back, and then boom, the other one jumps on your back. Throwing you off balance. Throwing you out by this, bro. Tugging you down. Now you got that heavy ass thing on your back and the gun. You shoot your partner. They really got you that way, bro. They really be planting. What happened? That's that's really how it be happening.
SPEAKER_01:Let's say you shot your phone.
SPEAKER_03:Or you'll go paintballing, and then y'all turn a blind corner, and then your partner pushes you down while they're trying to escape. Then you get shot in the ass, and then you can't tell if it's the rain or your tears in your face. That's crazy how heavy happened. Something not realistic, though. It's just like that would never happen. No one would ever do anybody like that in that scenario.
SPEAKER_01:That's just folklore, really. That's just folklore.
SPEAKER_03:Urban legend, really.
SPEAKER_01:That's urban legend.
SPEAKER_03:Hearsay, probably.
SPEAKER_01:Probably. If you say.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, so before we end off on this FFF, um, to give everybody a quick heads up, there are ways to eliminate the zombies.
SPEAKER_01:Go ahead, bro. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04:So you can either do the good old classic rip through what? I've never seen that category. So you can either what happened, bro. You can either destroy the brain, which is like the central nervous system or whatever. So in start, like in standard like versions of like zombies, you just shoot them in the head and they'll be done. Or you like scrush, like crush their head or whatever. Um, fire or incineration. You just burn them to like to crisp to ash or whatever. Uh and some, you know, you gotta decapitate them. Was that like in Walking Dead? You had to decapitate them?
SPEAKER_01:Decapitate them, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But their heads wouldn't still be moving or alive.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, I think so, but their body uh just stops.
SPEAKER_04:Their body stops their head just biting. Um, another one is magical banishment or ritual. That's like for the episode or whatever. Type shit. So for the people that say, well, if you burn them up, wouldn't disease be in the air?
SPEAKER_01:Mmm. You could say that, but you could also say it died in the fire.
SPEAKER_04:Explain.
SPEAKER_01:Fire disease, fire beats disease. Mmm, heat. Heat. Mmm. Contain heat. Mmm. Now I didn't think about that. If you do burno, the pathogens in the air now. How we do this? How you do it? Under the water.
unknown:Mmm. Mmm.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, how the fuck do you do? How do you get rid of the bodies? You just wear protective gear. Well, then you turn into one of the hazmat zombies now.
SPEAKER_04:No, because I'm gonna get bit.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Because that'd have the whole thing on.
SPEAKER_01:You say that, but as the camera cuts away, it pants to uh a bite on your on your arm that you've been neglecting.
SPEAKER_04:A mosquito that bit an infected zombie.
SPEAKER_01:That's what I always thought. I thought a mosquito, I was like, if a mosquito bites a zombie and then bites a human, wouldn't the mosquito be a zombie, therefore biting the human? Or at least like uh transplant the virus to the human too. That makes sense to me. Fucking mosquitoes, bro. Fucking worthless pieces of shit.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Kill mosquitoes.
SPEAKER_01:Kill mosquitoes, uh, save the world from a zombie attack. They laugh now. They laugh now. What happened with the years 2034 and the military has fallen.
SPEAKER_03:The world's gonna end.
SPEAKER_04:The world's supposed to end last week, I think.
SPEAKER_01:But I got I got sane neighbors, bro. They weren't giving away stuff, bro. They were keeping all this stuff, bro. Fuck.
SPEAKER_04:What do you mean you went you ain't gonna sell me that Lamborghini for$25? That shit burn a hole in my pocket right now, my boy. But uh, that's pretty much it for the zombies. Obviously, there's like so much more. There's so much more. There's so much more different stories, different variants. You had zombies that actually have intelligence. You have there were zombies in Star Wars at one point. Like it was probably like a fan fiction type of thing. But if I'm not mistaken, the guy I work with said something. Like he gave me like a brief rundown. I think it's like Palpatine was gonna like release like this virus, and it was gonna like infect um people, and then they were like gonna be under his control or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_01:Or just like it's like it's called I'm gonna have to run this by Jaruni should be troopers or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_04:But it was pretty good. Like the zombies.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I think I seen something like that.
SPEAKER_04:The zombies were actually intelligent, so they learned how to fly the stuff, and they were able to like fly. There were the troopers that were getting affected.
SPEAKER_01:I think I seen something like that.
SPEAKER_04:It took place like in some prison thing or some crap like that, and there was like a smoke, but they needed the smoke to stay alive, so after they got away from the smoke, they eventually like died. Because they needed to stay alive. It sounds really, it sounds really I think if I'm not mistaken, that's how it went. He gave me like a brief rundown, but I really can't retain everything.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, yeah. I'm I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to look on that because it's it's it's like activated something in my brain that's telling me it it's pretty cool. Look it up when you get a chance, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But all right, that's enough of that. Y'all let us know what y'all favorite zombie is. Let us know if y'all have any favorite zombie movies or let us know if you a zombie. How would you survive? What is your game plan for when zombies attack? Let us know. What is the wait before? What is the best strategy to survive a zombie apocalypse? Be a zombie. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I'm over here. I was like, Oh, what do I do? I was trying, I was trying to keep. You can't beat him, join him. You just randomly bought a human. The human the human thinks he he's gonna turn to a zombie, kills himself.
SPEAKER_03:Me over here trying to keep it together, about to bust out laughing. It was just a prank.
SPEAKER_01:I see the dude start whoops, start taking his shit off. Cocks his head's about me over here. I mean, boom. No way. Whoops, about to go loot up. First thing you gotta do, you gotta loop. Y'all loot, people.
SPEAKER_04:Look off into the imaginary camera.
SPEAKER_01:They don't need it, they don't they don't need it no more. Bro, that would be me and the hood. That's not me a pocket, just looking into a random camera, just losing my fucking mind. Get a load of this, watch this. Everybody start laughing by myself in the middle of the street with the fucking zombies walking around.
SPEAKER_04:But y'all let us know how y'all would survive. Well, wait, how would you survive then, real quick?
SPEAKER_05:My bad.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, how would I survive? I don't even know how to do it. You gotta bar first things first, you gotta barricade all the windows. You gotta set up, you gotta set up a perimeter.
SPEAKER_04:But then the walkers.
SPEAKER_01:But then I was gonna say, but then also the pairs, what kind of zombies we gonna have? Because if it's runners zombies, walkers and runners. Walkers and runners. So walkers and runners, you gotta, it's gonna be like a uh a quiet place type of situation. You gotta move around silently then, cuz the moment they hear something, they're they're gonna be they're gonna be on your ass. Oh fuck, bro. That's the universe I just give up on, but I ain't I ain't even I ain't even gonna fight, bro. No, you gotta loot.
SPEAKER_04:You gotta loot and lose.
SPEAKER_01:Nah, but barricade everything, get weapons.
SPEAKER_04:You damn, but like run out of bullets, man.
SPEAKER_01:Run out of bullets. Okay. You you gotta makeshift long weapons. Don't don't don't be making don't be getting don't be going too bad with a little with a little close-coat or knife, go in there with a spear or like uh or like something crazy, so you got range, so they can't get to you and bite you. That's that's what I be thinking.
SPEAKER_04:Remember, these are walkers and runners, right?
SPEAKER_01:So set that, set that, set that range. Get a shield, get a shield. You'll be laughing, but when but when that zombie gonna bite your hand and you try to put up your shield and you don't got a shield, infect it, infected right there. So you gonna need a shield. Oh, it's so medieval. Medieval uh I was just about to say medieval tactics, bro. You're gonna see me out there full sparring, spartan suit, bro, spartan suit. It's just me with uh fake fake muscles. Fucking helmet.
SPEAKER_03:Completely exposed, got my crypto handles off.
SPEAKER_04:Completely armored up from head to toe. And I want a badass helmet that makes my visibility zero. Zero.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to see when I'm attacking. You just fight, you start fighting the only survivors that left the city. Stop, stop. But uh that's that's what you're gonna have to do, bro. Really? And then you always gotta carry a shotgun. Shotgun is just one of those situations where it'll get you into anything. It'll it'll just you wanna be quiet, but if you lose that quietness, you you might as well just just let a couple buckshots go into the air because it's in the air. In the air, but warning shots, but I gotta tell the zombies, stop before I shoot you. I don't want to do this. You better, you better than this. Stop. Start crying. No, but um, yeah, but I think start-off shotgun would be better, really. So just in case they got volatile, bro, because you won't know if they got volatile. That's the only thing that can stop a volatile, but you can't beat you can't beat them up, bro. You can't beat them volatile. I'll kick them in the nuts. They don't got nuts.
SPEAKER_04:I will make it.
SPEAKER_01:Can we clap zombie cheat?
SPEAKER_04:I will make nuts and give it to them, then kick them in the nuts.
SPEAKER_01:This man found the problem, created a solution for the problem, became the problem. Well yeah, but I think that's and then that, and then you gotta go into a whole uh you gotta be like a homestead person now. You really gotta live off land and all that shit. But uh, yeah, so I don't think I survived that shit really. I don't think so. I'll probably die quick. Probably get bit. So do doing what I was gonna do, kill myself.
SPEAKER_04:But that's enough of that. Then we're gonna go ahead and go off to the next topic. We're gonna be talking about scary stories. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's right. That's scary stories. I ain't got none, so y'all gonna let y'all know these scary, scary stories. Everybody buckle down. So I had one nice and cozy. Turn off the volume.
SPEAKER_01:That happened recently. Turn off the volume. You said turn off the lights, turn off your clothes, don't zip your pants. What? Take one sock off. Because if you take off two, it's gay. What? So, so this is an experience uh that happened to me. Um maybe like three months ago. Tops. Two months. Two months, one month, two months. Maybe three. Anyways, point is so I was out there chilling, right? Okay, so okay, no, no, no. Let me let me digress. So I ended up waking up with uh three scratches on my on my stomach. Three scratches?
SPEAKER_05:Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01:Three scratches. I still got them. They they never faded away. So okay, so when that happened, um my brother tried to tell me it was the dogs that did it. At the time I didn't even have Zeus. So I was like, maybe, could be. I don't think so. Um I had a nightmare that night. I don't remember what what the nightmare was about no more. Um, but I had a nightmare. It was it was crazy, and that's when I ended up waking up. And I don't know why I was asleep. Like when I woke up, I moved, but my stomach like it felt like like it hurt. Like, you know, like when you cut yourself and like it stings, it stings where especially because you know, Carhart and shit. Um, you know how I be rough rough. Um I kept it kept on hurting, but I was like, I was just I know I wasn't really thinking much of it. I was just like, damn, why the fuck that shit hurting? Like, so I went to the bathroom, lifted my shirt, bro, just three scratch marks, three scratch marks. So then I I I kind of kind of freaked out a little bit, but then you know, locked in with myself, and I was like, you know, it's probably nothing. Big mistake. Um so like my brother was saying, it was probably the dogs. Uh the dogs have scratched me countless times. They I never they never leave. Uh-huh. They never like, and I was like, if it's that bad, how did I not wake up from the from the pain of scratch? Like literally, it was just like a scratch like that. So next couple days, I kind of kept an eye on it. It was not disappearing. It actually scabbed up. Um, and I would see where the dogs would scratch me, where they would like actually scratch me, especially after coming home from work. They don't see me all day, they'll jump on me, scratch me. None of those marks were uh were uh were permanent. So I was like, this is literally the only mark that is uh that has stayed. Like every other mark in my body hit like disappears. It's like the only mark that has stayed. So kind of was in a limbo state for the next couple days where I was like, damn, what I wonder what it could be, blah blah blah, whatever. Um I started getting this idea in my head that someone was like, like I don't know, it just popped up in my head like um I don't know how to explain, like it wasn't my own thought, if that makes sense, where it was like someone's doing something to you, someone's like working you. I don't want to believe it. I didn't want to I was like, nah, I don't think so. I don't think this I don't think this is possible. So I go over to my mom, start telling her like breaking down because something else happened. Um I don't remember what happened, but I ended up having this conversation with my mom, and she ended up telling me that someone was doing something to me, but they they gave it uh yeah, yeah, okay. So she said they gave it the work, whatever like whatever they were doing to me, they gave it to me through food. I was like, I doubt it. I like like I was like, okay, I ran it ran a quick diagnostic over it. Like I hadn't got to nobody's house. What did you have to say, bro? I like I hadn't like literally, like, literally, I had I hadn't got nowhere, like, like literally nowhere. So I was like, I don't think so. But she was just saying that because the marks were on my stomach. And then having talked back and forth about who could be doing it, why they could be doing it, stuff like that. Um really it came down to nothing. So so we just uh we just left it at that. So a couple days a couple days after that, uh, I was chilling with my homie. We were we're we were chilling here. We started talking about some stuff, you know, about uh about life. We just had like a just he has some stuff you want to get off his chest, you know, and I was just I was just listening to that.
SPEAKER_04:I think you told me about that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I told you about you said something.
SPEAKER_04:I think you mentioned in one of the episodes before that you said that you had a conversation with uh somebody and it was like a little deep conversation y'all just told me.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, okay. So I started okay, okay, okay. So I got to that one. Okay, okay. So oh yeah, I just didn't tell y'all the the stuff beforehand like uh beforehand, right? Mm-hmm about the dreams and everything. Okay. So that happened where though it just seemed like it was covering the uh we got covering whatever, energy or whatever. And um, so how did I did say all of that then?
SPEAKER_04:No, you didn't say nothing like that. You just said y'all talk, that was it.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay, that was it. Okay. So, okay, so what happened that day was that as we were talking out there, bro, it felt like Okay, so he was telling me about how he wants to see like paranormal stuff and stuff like that, right? And so I was telling him, you don't like be careful what you wish for, because it ain't it ain't like like he's heard my stories and stuff like that, so he wants to see something like that, but I'm like, it ain't it ain't necessarily it's gonna go down the way you want to, or you're in control of the moment of of what's happening, right? And as we were talking everything, bro, I started having the sensation of like we're being watched, bro. It felt like okay, so as I'm getting there, I started having like this overwhelming feeling like in my body of like um okay, like the time I had I had I told I said on the podcast where I was laying with Shadi in her house and I got like paralyzed. I felt that out there, broad daylight. Broad daylight outside, bro. Damn, broad daylight like that. So I got up, bro. My body felt like it was getting crushed. Like it felt like dead ass, bro. I felt like someone just grabbed me and was like just pressing me like that. So I get up, I'm like, hey, hey, get in, bro. Get in. Something's like something's not right, something's not right. Bro, no cat, like in the movies type shit, bruh. I feel like the whole like I don't I can't, I don't even know how to explain. Like my body was was it felt like it was about to give out. Like it felt like I had like weight on my back, like something was pulling me, like pulling me down. So I just like I just locked in and my mind started walking, like I f oh, and I started feeling like I had to throw up. Like, um, that's the other thing. So I ran down to through my day. Um, so we tried to attribute everything that happened. We tried to find like a logical explanation of what was going on. So that day we didn't even drink. Um we had already eight because we wanted he wanted to say like maybe it's because we didn't eat. I was like, but we did eat. Like we ate we ate in the morning, and that happened like a couple hours after that. So trying to make it to the bathroom because I had to throw up. So I left him out there by himself, and I started walking in. It started feeling like it was I don't know, bro. I can't even walk, bro. Like, I just like every step I took felt like heavy, heavy as hell, bro. Like, like it was crazy. I finally met her over there, started throwing up, didn't throw up nothing though. Just like I was just gagging, just just doing a whole lot of gagging. And uh, I finally like locked in and I was like, damn, homie still out there. But I go out there, I don't see him, and then I don't see him, and he's uh he like walked down the block and he was like standing in front of the neighbor's house, like looking up and I was like, hey, come on, what are you doing? Like get get inside, like what the fuck you doing? And he was like in a trance type type type shit. He was like, I don't know, that cat is just calling me. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Get the get get in the house. I'm over here trying to hold myself together because I kept on shivering. I feel like I was uh I was um cold or something. I don't I don't know, it was just a weird, weird feeling. But so I'm like, get get over here, you know what I'm calling. So he finally gets back over here. We start breaking down what happened. So apparently when I went inside, when I told him, you know, get inside, something's not right. Says I just locked in and went to the bathroom. But he said he stayed out there, and as soon as I stepped inside, this cat appeared. There's cats here, there's cats here. But he said that the cat, like his tail started like calling him, like started like like attracting. He said he felt like attracted to the like something was like telling him to like walk. And bro, this this man was just like out there just standing looking into the neighbor's house. So I was like, what, like, like like break it down, like why why you had that feeling? He's like, I don't know, I can't tell you why I had that feeling. All I know was the the tail, like the cat was calling me to like to to follow him, to keep following him. So he said he followed him, and he said he lost the cat for a second, and then he started looking up, and brother, he said the door to their house just opened, it was just black inside.
SPEAKER_05:Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01:And um Damn. And uh I was like, what you mean? He was like, I don't know. He was like, I don't know how long I've been standing there. And he said, as soon as I left, that's when he followed the cats, and when I came back, that's when I kind of broke him out of his trance in his sense. He said he was just staring, like something was telling him from inside the house, like to get inside. But like he rationalized in his head. He was like, wait, like what am I doing? Like, like like yeah, like what am I doing? Like, why am I doing this? And so that's how we ended up making him come back and everything. So um it felt the other thing, it felt it felt like a wave of energy. Um I really don't know how to explain this because it's uh I I don't know, it was just like a wave of energy when we were out there. Um it just kind of made me made me sick. But we stayed out there for another maybe hour, two hours with the same like motion sickness feelings. And um yeah, that was that was basically all that happened that day out there. But we stayed out there for a while, um, still dealing with the fec. We felt like drowsy, like we had just been we was just chilling, bro. We felt like slow on energy, low, stupid low on energy, like like really drowsy, like going in and out, kept feeling sick, kept feeling like I had to throw up. And um, but yeah, so we just talked about it. Um we didn't get to a conclusion of what it could be or anything like that. So that was that, and um that happened, and I was just saving all I I never said all this, did I? Okay, so I yeah, I was just saving all that for the for this episode for the um for like around Halloween time. Um so I had kind of forgot about that, and then one night I was I was laying here, bro, and I had the craziest, the craziest nightmare where it was like I don't know, I was like, you know how night in in in dreams you kind of start randomly, like your dream starts at a like you know, there's not no beginning, middle, and end. It just starts. Um I was I don't know, someone like called me because they were doing something to like their daughter or something like that, and so they wanted me to see what if I could see what it was. So I was like, uh let me go see. Let me go see. But in the dream it was wild because I f I like I saw the little girl, and they had like a ribbon attached to her. But so I started following the ribbon, I started following the ribbon, and um it was a couple, it was, it was uh, it was a it was a male, it was a male and female, and so I started calling them out in the dream. I was like, You cowards, like why you hurt a little little girl for like blah blah blah. They turned around, they're like, You worry about stuff you shouldn't be worried about, we can't even take care of yourself. And I I just stood there, I was like, What are you talking about? They're like, Look, we're gonna stop, but we also gonna do you a favor, we're gonna show you who's doing this to you. And I was like, What are you talking about, bro? The room changed. It was like a painting of an old lady on the wall, and it was like just in a dark room, bro. The lady's face started changing, and she started coming out of the painting. And I was I was like in the dream. I said, You can't do nothing to me, you can't do nothing to me. But I stopped, like, she shut my mouth. I wasn't able to speak no more in the dream. Damn. And I woke up, like it was just my mind, like you can't do nothing to me. You can't, bro. I woke up like and uh bro, I woke up and they were like, they were just looking at me like like like you good, like you good, man. Like they were just they were just watching me. And uh I woke up that night and that was like the last that was like the last thing that that ever happened, and I attribute all of that to whatever was the first thing that happened to me. Um whatever started it, whatever started it. But um talking to my mom and everything, I feel like whoever, if there was a uh travajo or anything like that, I feel like days they didn't know what they were doing. Cause um I feel like when they did it, I was too aware that they were doing whatever they were doing. And like uh when they know what they're supposed to do, like I shouldn't have been able like to to feel it or have it in my mind that they're doing something to me. Um does that make sense? Yeah, but um well yeah, nothing else has happened uh since uh since then, since that day.
SPEAKER_04:Oh shit. Well that's good, bro. I'm glad nothing else has happened to you.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, that was that was like what? Yeah, about three weeks. The last thing was maybe two weeks ago, two, three weeks ago. Yeah. On that final dream. But uh, I feel like all of that was connected. I don't know how exactly, I don't know who, I don't know what, but I feel like all that, all that shit was was connected.
SPEAKER_04:Damn, bro. Fuck.
SPEAKER_01:But um, but yeah, that's that's one one story. That's one story.
SPEAKER_04:Damn, that's just crazy as hell, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Um, you gonna do another one or what you gotta know which what you think? Shall I do another one? Yeah, you can do another one.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because it's gonna be chopped down.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, that's right, that's right. Alright, so the other one. Alright, so I had a quick uh update on the last story that I told about uh my mom seeing the uh the Thunderbird. Oh, come on, that's some professional. Um from seeing the Thunderbird. Um so because I asked her about it. I told her that I had covered it. Umright except for one thing. The bird that they would see didn't have any feathers.
SPEAKER_05:Oh shoot, what?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so bro, come on.
SPEAKER_05:You can take it if you need to, bro.
SPEAKER_01:Uh no, I'm just gonna tell her I'm recording. I mean, she knows I'm recording.
SPEAKER_04:You can send a quick text, but like, give me like 10 minutes or something. We're about to wrap it up.
SPEAKER_01:So um, yeah, so she said everything was basically correct. She said the only thing was the whole reason why they stopped. Um they had a time period where they couldn't go out was because one of the kids that was there was like they already knew they shouldn't go out at a certain time. Like the people told them, like, you know, this this thing goes over the over us. Just don't uh don't let the kids out at this time. So they said there was a kid that would always be like, come on, let's go. Like, we'll be alright, we'll be alright. So they ended up following it, following him. They ended up going out, that thing flew over.
SPEAKER_04:And snatched up the shortest homie. Bro, it looked at him.
SPEAKER_01:He said he looked, it looked at him like the bird, like the thing, like looked down and uh like made eye contact with the kid. Oh shit. And the kid, like the kid was like, Yep, no, we're not, we're not doing that again. Like it felt like like it seen him. And um, hold on, but I'm gonna go take it off. Uh so yeah, that that was but yeah, it was it was uh it was featherless. So some of the people said that it was actually a witch that would transform and change uh change forms, leave, because it would go all the way to the mountains, leave and then come back. So that was that's what they said some because it didn't have uh um feathers, feathers. But my mom said she thinks it was just a dinosaur, like a long, like a long lost uh because I was kind of describing it to her like what it looked like and everything, and if that could that could be it. And she was like, Yeah, actually kind of looks like that. So it maybe it was a long life, long lost uh dinosaur dinosaur, yeah. That were either that or which you pick. You got two two options, only two options though. Only two options. Um that was one update. The other update, um I think I said I think I I think I told uh Jerry's story here.
SPEAKER_05:Which one?
SPEAKER_01:The one where he ran over with the truck.
SPEAKER_04:Uh you haven't told her. I haven't told him.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. Well, so I because I I seen him today and I asked him about it. Oh, yeah? Yeah, so uh, so that this is Jaruni's account. This is my brother's account. So Shout out Big J. Shout out Big J. The man Jaruni. This was uh this was when uh he used to go out go out a lot at night. I'm talking about a lot. So SN Good Mexican mom uh started telling him that uh stuff was gonna show up and uh and scare him. And you know, as kids, we were like, yeah, yeah, whatever. So this time Jeruni uh he said it was dark. He said it was one of those nights where it had been raining beforehand, and you know, when you go out at night after it been raining, sometimes it's like a little darker. Does that you know what I'm saying? Saying so it was one of those days where it was just dark and shit. And he said he couldn't even see the road. And so he said he was low-key. He was he was uh uh you know you get kind of close to the steering wheel so you can have better visible better visibility when you it's low visibility. So that's how he was. He got closer to the to the to the steering wheel and everything. As he's going he sees two pairs of legs and then sees another two pairs of legs behind it, so he thought it was a deer. The headlights are barely getting to the you know, barely lighting it up lighting the whatever it is up. And say as as the uh lights hit it. Uh it's just it's a it's two bodies. And they're standing there, and they said he said uh they were they were tall, they were like maybe like seven feet tall. Uh pale, sunken eyes, it was a void for the mouth. Um he said as he's going by it, one of them ran towards him. Like ran towards the truck. I don't blame the man. He said he ran over the thing with the ran over the thing with the truck.
SPEAKER_04:See, this is how you survive in horror movies. You use a little common sense, you got a thousand plus pound vehicle. What the hell is a person gonna do to it? It ain't the hulk.
SPEAKER_01:It ain't the hulk. Imagine if it is the whole picks up the car, throws you with the car. Um, so yeah, so he runs over one and he said he remembers it because like he can feel the truck, he can feel like going over something. So he keeps uh oh and he had the window down because it was like it was feeling good. So as he's going, you know, he just fed off. He said as he's running over that one thing, there's uh you can hear uh laughter coming from the woods. And um he he made it to where he had to go and then came back to the house and he was he said he was pale, he was uh he was he was visibly, even mom said he was visibly upset over over that. And but he checked the true he said he checked the truck. So he was like, what if I just ran over a person or something like that? But there was nothing, no damage to the truck, no blood, no uh um no nothing. And um, well yeah, that's what that's what he uh he stopped, he stopped going out. Think about it, he stopped going out after that. After uh after seeing that.
SPEAKER_04:I have no clue what that could uh that man always got into some shenanigans at night, bruh. With the whole video he showed, I ain't gonna disclose why. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, bruh, maybe stop going out at night. So I don't doubt that he had some type of encounter because usually when you do go out at night, you gonna see something or have to deal with some bullshit. Yep. Whether it's supernatural or not, people just tend to be gremlins at night. Yep, yep. I remember my first dose of it. I was like, man, they just bullshit. And I went out, I was with my cousin. We were driving down uh the ville, we were like at a gas station, but we saw like cars, like this car was following this other car, and it did like this crazy U-turn. I'm like, damn shit about to go down. But we drove off before. Okay, before it's a happened type shit. But maybe they weren't lying, maybe shit does happen. Or like that one time you were talking about like uh you got to the gas station and dude was like, all right, I'm gonna get I got a 762 or something like that. Or uh he said something something like that. Uh and you did it before because you were buying a probably Rello. Yeah, Relo or something shit like that. You saw shit happen and you were like, bro, let me get out of there.
SPEAKER_01:This was still at the other house, right? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So shit does happen at night, especially at a waffle house. Shit do be happening.
SPEAKER_01:Shit be happening.
SPEAKER_04:But y'all just be safe out there if y'all gonna be out there at night and whatnot. Yeah. Use your brain, think, think logically, and uh just be careful out there.
SPEAKER_01:Exercise, uh, exercise caution out there. Because it'd be I don't know, yeah. Nighttime's a whole different. It's like the volatiles. Nighttime ain't no rules. You gotta run. You gotta run towards the light. Right. Um, did did you want another story? Or do you want to throw another one? Let me tell you, let me tell you, let me tell you. Uh uh, yeah. Uh this one this was when my mom's at her new workplace. Wherever she goes, this woman keeps finding stuff that happens. Um, okay, so so they got this machine. She she's working at a textile. I think something textile, something like that. Oh, something to do with carpets. They'd be making carpet, some shit, some shit like that. Um and so it's known that it's haunting in there. Like it it's it's known. So uh a couple of her coworkers have seen stuff where they just they'll just leave. Like they can leave throughout the day. Um so they they'll just leave whenever they see stuff like that. They would they'll just leave. But this time, um one of the machines ended up breaking down. So uh they just couldn't get it to work, right? So they had to call uh a mechanic over there, so he was fixing it. And he had left some pliers on the on the on the machine, right? And so and he said he was gonna come back, something like that, right? So my mom was talking to to this other guy that works there, you know, they just cut on the side because they can't do nothing. Bro, they threw the pliers at them.
SPEAKER_05:Oh shit. Oh hell no.
SPEAKER_01:So that dude, it's like, yeah, no, I'm not dealing with this, leaves and just leaves my mom there by herself. And so my mom's like, like, what the fuck? Like, so she's chilling there, right? This other dude comes in, uh, that works there as well, and they're talking, you know. My mom's telling her what just happened, but the machine that was off turns on.
SPEAKER_04:Damn.
SPEAKER_01:So they look at each other. Mind you, this machine had not been working all day. So my mom's like, is there any chance that this can turn on by dude? The dude cuts her off. That's not even a chance. You gotta turn on manually. They they don't turn on by themselves just like that. Damn. And that dude's like, yeah, I'm about to head out, I'm about to head home too. But uh, yeah, so they just leave. They just they can just leave.
SPEAKER_03:What? What kind of workplace is this?
SPEAKER_01:They they got um, so they'll just paying for the hours that they do. So it's up to them how much money they they want to make. Like they got their own deadlines, obviously. They got their own okay, they can they can keep working, they can keep doing stuff, but let's say their deadlines. And they get they gotta get 40 hours. I think that's as much as they can get. They gotta meet their deadlines and get 40 hours in every week. So some people that they'll stay over time for like three days, and then the final days they might not show up. Um so it's however they can knock out their uh their 40 hours and knock out their work. Um, but but yeah. So yeah, they they can just they can just pick up and leave just just like that. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:I like that low-key.
SPEAKER_01:But um, but yeah, so they saw that. Um there was another thing that happened. This is all in the same place where uh um my mom saw well, she heard the dude, right though. This this dude that works with her. Basically heard him, he was whistling down the hallway, something like that. So she heard him walking towards her, didn't think much of it. And she saw this shadow across like in front of her, right? To this other section. So she just thought, because she was focused on her work, she just thought it was the dude that was uh uh that was whistling. And so she uh well she saw the dude whistling and then but she went back to her work and then the shadow that walked in front of her to this other section, she just figured it was him uh that was doing it, right? And as she like she recalled seeing the figure from the corner of her eye um go into the next room, uh started whistling again. So she's like, Okay, okay, you know, so is it's that dude that's whistling and whatnot, right? Doesn't think much of it. A couple minutes later, the dude walks in from that door uh that she saw the shadow come out from. Does that make sense? Yeah. So where she saw the shadow come from to the other to the other section, the dude barely walks in through that door. Damn. Yeah, my mom's like, where are you? Didn't you just come like didn't you just go to the other room? And he's like, Oh no, I just uh I just walked down the down the hallway. As she's saying this, they hear whistling from the other from the other hallway.
SPEAKER_05:Oh shit.
SPEAKER_01:And um yeah, they just they just ignored it, but they just got went back to work. Not me, bro. Investigate, investigate, investigate. We about to shut down, we about to shut y'all down. We need to investigate what's what's going on here. We're gonna cut all the factory lights off.
SPEAKER_04:We're gonna work in the dark with night vision goggles.
SPEAKER_01:No clothes, because that that's how you attract the most ghosts. Uh that's how they get you. They grab your clothes and it's scary. Yep, yep. Can't give them nothing to hold on to.
SPEAKER_04:Everybody get in, put this oil on, and everybody just hug each other to apply it to everyone's okay. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, go ahead. But um, but yeah, that's uh that's that's my mom's story.
SPEAKER_04:Damn, Rash is crazy. She always got something going on, huh?
SPEAKER_01:Don't know how to just be chill. Don't throw she can't just chill, bro. She can't just chill, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Damn, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:But um, but yeah, uh, we I got I got more stories, but I just figured we leave it for the next episode. Yeah, you can't use them all. I know no.
SPEAKER_04:But uh y'all let us know if y'all have any good ghost stories. Let us know if y'all have any scary things that we could possibly talk about maybe in the upcoming episodes or maybe next year for the next uh cosmic color horror month. Um uh shout out to all the people that stay listening. You know, thank you so much for sharing, liking, subscribing, following us. Uh be sure to follow us on TikTok at KOS M I C underscore C O V E and on Instagram at K-O-S-M-I-C underscore C O V E as well. Uh again, that's Cosmic Cove. Uh, shout out to my girlfriend for listening to the episode. You know, I really do appreciate it. It means the world to me that you still listen. Shout out to all the people that listen from around different states and everything, or maybe from a different country. You know, thank y'all so much. We appreciate the support. Shout out to my cousin Pepe, you know, thank you for always supporting me and telling me, you know, you got this and checking up on me and stuff like that. Like I said, it's hard to balance school, do this, and then I'm trying to do other things and maybe do a different career change, is what I'm thinking about doing. Maybe I'm not too sure yet. But it's a handful. You know, it's tough to try and balance everything, but I'm gonna get through it. It just makes me feel bad that I feel like I'm pushing this to the side. When this is when I when I really sit down to think, when I have a moment of quiet, I do realize this is what I want to do, and I hate that I don't take the time to do more with this, and I beat myself up about it, but I tell myself, it's okay, everything's gonna happen in due time, you know. You got stuff that you're working out, work it out, then come back to this, you know, because we're still doing it, you know. I still enjoy it. I like it. And especially with October, I was pretty excited. I was like, dang, I forgot. And that was when I messaged you. I was like, it's horror month. Like, bruh, like horror month is like a really good one that I enjoy a lot. But um, again, thank y'all so much for tuning in. Thank you all again for all the love and support. I'm gonna pass it off to Yayo and let you do what you do.
SPEAKER_01:Uh just shout out Sammy for uh be on the lookout for the next episode, you know. Number one fan. He's at where's it at? Um where is it? Uh whoever is uh at least someone, someone that uh Shadi knows. She uh they they heard our podcast, they recognize. Um so we famous now. We basically made it. Oh, they heard they heard it. Yeah, they heard it. Yeah, they came across the podcast and listened to it. They liked it. Yeah, they liked it.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, okay, that's good. That makes me feel good that some people enjoyed it.
SPEAKER_01:I think so, at least. I think that's what she was telling me. I didn't let her finish the story. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. Probably had a whole complaint uh about it, but look in my mind, they liked it.
SPEAKER_04:That's that's that's that's all that matters. I know we're not like other podcasts where we don't have like a serious tone throughout the whole thing. I know we could cut back on the banter, but it's just us being us. I mean, I'm sorry if it's not what y'all like, but you know, we're gonna do what we enjoy. Yeah, we'll take some constructive criticism, but yeah, it's what we like to do. Not too much. Don't construct too much, man. Right. We we like to just chill and hang back, you know, just hang out pretty much. You know, if y'all imagine like hanging out with your friends, y'all in the living room and y'all just chilling and talking or y'all just listening. Like, literally, that's all it is. Literally, if you think about it, like I started thinking, I was like, people say, how do you listen to a podcast, especially for two hours long? I'm just like, bro, it's just like you're chilling in a room with people and you're just listening to them talk.
SPEAKER_01:That's it. I I I I I don't know if it's because I'm glazing myself or anything like that, but sometimes I'd be like listening to listening to the podcast. I'm like, damn. Loky two hours ain't to know. Like sometimes I'm like, eh, we I need to hear him more. I need I need to hear him more. I need to hear myself more, you know. That dude fucking hilarious, you know. Yeah, nobody laughed.
SPEAKER_03:Nobody laughed at the joke. Come on, man. That shit was good.
SPEAKER_01:That's my best word yet. But uh I I don't think I don't think two hours is at least for podcasts I don't think it goes by quick, it goes by quick. Um, and I feel like at least with us as we do a lot of jokes and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_05:Like we enjoy it. We enjoy it, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It doesn't fit, it doesn't seem stale. Yeah, at least I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04:The joke is what makes it for me, and then I do like when we get into like stuff like that, we start getting into because I'm like, all right, I can lock in a little bit real quick. Right, right. And then the joke take a little break, you're like, uh then lock back in. I'm like, mmm, it's good.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I like that flow.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, at least I do. Yeah, if y'all don't like it, I'm sorry. Y'all just either gonna get used to it or I guess.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we're not gonna change it.
SPEAKER_04:It's just us being us. Y'all either come to learn to like us or y'all just leave. I mean, no, no, no, fake shit, no fix it. I'm not trying to like be a dick or anything.
SPEAKER_01:I'm just saying, like, if you don't like us, you can fucking die. You heard it here.
SPEAKER_04:Fuck it, jump us up. No, but for all the people that even if you just check us out for one episode, you know, I appreciate it. If you make it to the very end, you know, I appreciate it. Thank y'all so much. Um like I said, I don't know. Just just thanks for always being there, you know. Well, I love it, I appreciate it. And uh yeah, that's pretty much it. So I'm I guess we'll catch on the next episode. So peace. Peace.
