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He asked for four parachutes and a bourbon—what could go wrong?
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A stranger’s voice in a burning stairwell, a crimson shape sliding under desert sand, and a man who stepped out of a jet with $200,000 and vanished—tonight we follow the thin line between danger and the stories that keep us alive. We start with Third Man Syndrome, the eerie reports of a calm, unseen presence that appears in extreme crises. From Shackleton’s ice-haunted march to an Everest near-summit and a 9/11 survivor’s steady guide, we unpack the psychology—stress, isolation, sensory deprivation, and the brain’s protective storytelling—without dismissing the spiritual pull of guardian angels. The patterns are startling, and the survival lessons are real: train your mind to be the voice you need under pressure.
Then we head into the Gobi to meet the Mongolian death worm. Acid spit, electric shocks, and a habit of emerging after rare rains—folklore frames a perfect desert predator. We balance local accounts with science: sand boas, legless lizards, spitting elapids, and the way deserts hide both animals and evidence. Whether it’s a misidentification or a hidden species, the message is simple—harsh landscapes reward respect, timing, and preparation.
Finally, we chart Dan “DB” Cooper’s immaculate heist: bourbon, a briefcase, four parachutes, exacting flight specs, and a midnight jump from a 727’s rear stairs. Calm demands, a flawless exit, and decades of theories—lost in the woods, a clean landing with a getaway car, or a cold river that kept his secret. We sift the clues, from riverbank cash to letters with cockpit-level detail, and ask what his plan teaches about managing risk when variables multiply.
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Welcome Cosby Gold family to another episode.
SPEAKER_03:Welcome we live. We live. We live.
SPEAKER_06:We are live. We are recording. 48, 49, 50. The numbers are moving.
SPEAKER_00:Numbers are moving. That means when the red dot is on, that means we are recording.
SPEAKER_05:You could afford me.
SPEAKER_00:Shit. Hey. Hey, every every mistake, it's a chance to improve. That's how y'all look at it. And every improvement make you make more mistakes because you improve. There you go. Never end the cycle, yo. Never end the cycle. Never stop. Never stop improving. Never stop fucking up. Low key, that's on a t-shirt somewhere. It gotta be on the t-shirt somewhere. What'd it do, Cosmic Cove?
SPEAKER_02:What happened, y'all?
SPEAKER_00:What happened? I had so many jokes. No, I'm just saying, no, no, no. Nah. But but luckily they hear all that early. That's really why it happened.
SPEAKER_05:The camera got everything.
SPEAKER_00:Camera about to see everything.
SPEAKER_05:But um, what it do, everybody. It's been a minute since we've recorded. That's my fault. That's my bad. Nonsense, nonsense. You get so caught up in work and everything, but that's besides the point.
SPEAKER_00:Really, we can blame Bake Pharma. Rarely. If you need to blame someone, always blame Bake Pharma. Always, no matter what. It's all it's it's always their fault. Always.
SPEAKER_05:Either that or the Jews.
SPEAKER_06:She already knew. According to our editor, it was the Jews.
SPEAKER_03:Look.
SPEAKER_06:I want to say it so bad, but no one is free over.
SPEAKER_03:She said Jew with a heart art. A Jewer.
SPEAKER_00:The worst kind. Always. Never mind. I'm gonna get calm. I'm gonna get I'm they're gonna say I'm anti-Semitic, but start throwing a couple jokes, and then everybody stopped laughing.
SPEAKER_05:Look, I'm gonna tell y'all a simple thing. If you don't know what words mean, words can't hurt you. Sticks and stones break bones, but words can never hurt. Words can never hurt. I was thinking, I was like, fuck, what's next?
SPEAKER_00:I was like, mm-mm. Google. Finish the sentence with you. What the fuck goes next? Hey, Google.
SPEAKER_03:That's that question on your test, bro. That shit would have got you. What was Beethoven's first instrument?
SPEAKER_05:Answer now.
SPEAKER_00:This counts for 50% of your grave. I just they just told me this. They just told me. It was the Volva.
unknown:The Volvo.
SPEAKER_00:The Volvo. What's that in? Volkswagen.
unknown:Huh?
SPEAKER_03:What's that in, though? Nah, it was the Viola. Viola. That goddamn it. That should sound like a body part.
SPEAKER_00:Nah, that's from uh that's just from Southfield.
SPEAKER_05:What?
SPEAKER_00:Volva.
SPEAKER_05:Volva?
SPEAKER_00:Uh-huh. That's what I heard, I think.
SPEAKER_05:The car?
SPEAKER_00:Uh-uh. It's uh it's I don't know what the fuck it is.
SPEAKER_05:Volva.
unknown:Look it up. Volvo?
SPEAKER_00:Nah, I ain't gonna look it up right now.
unknown:You should.
SPEAKER_00:Chill, bro. Chill.
SPEAKER_05:What is it?
SPEAKER_00:Uh I think it's I think it is a body part, but it was like uh it was an episode where Jay was trying to figure out uh this girl's name. Oh and he was like, and she was like, uh whoa, rhymes with the body part Volva. Volva. What is it? Yeah, that's like the lips, no? Ew, ew, what the fuck? They got lips? Y'all can tell. Sorry guys, we're a bunch of virgins over here. Sorry, y'all. So that's the medical term for it, for real.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, that's just like a myth. Like the um, it's just fake terms.
SPEAKER_06:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:It's just made believe, huh?
SPEAKER_06:On the topic of legends today.
SPEAKER_00:What a what a transition.
SPEAKER_05:What a segue. No, but uh what'd it do, everybody? Like we said, uh, what what you been up to, bro?
SPEAKER_00:I said, I don't feel like I I've been uh I've been uh I've been a dad to a third to a third uh Paparoonie. He's sleeping again, just like last episode.
SPEAKER_05:Right, he's chilling. He's gonna wake up shortly though.
SPEAKER_00:That's really that's really all I've been doing, bro. Just training. Just training him, teaching him how to use the farm correctly, um, how to unload one properly, you know, the safety, safety of of uh uh of guns and everything. Teaching him how to uh what else?
SPEAKER_05:Um how to answer the door.
SPEAKER_00:How to answer the dog door, you know. When somebody when somebody knocks, you gotta go there and bite them. Um whatever. Just you know, just good shit like that.
SPEAKER_05:You know, he's working his way up to do the taxes, but we still not.
SPEAKER_00:We still, you know, once I start doing them, you know, that's when he'll no, but uh no, just really just been that's it, really.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, for real.
SPEAKER_00:It feels it feels like having I mean obviously it's not, but it just feels like having a a little kid, bro. That man just he's so curious. He's more curious than them. They were they weren't that um like yeah, they were curious, but not like they just like they're more chill. He's actually he wants to know how he used to be he used to be curious, really. He used to be curious about everything. Um so far, let me not say that because if I say I feel like I'm a uh jinx it. I'm a jinx it, yeah. So I'm not gonna say what I was gonna say. But yeah, he's he's been really he's been really really cool. He's he's learning how to get on the couch now, finally. Oh, for real. He used to cry to get on the couch now. He can get on by himself.
SPEAKER_03:Bruh, his sister wants to get on the couch all the time, bro. So for real. No. How'd they been? How it feels having all of them? Yeah, we got all of them, bro. Ain't nobody want them, bro.
SPEAKER_05:I know. We got all of them. Fucking six, five dogs now. Oh man. But they're doing good, you know. I gotta clean up their poop every day and all that stuff, and then feed them, and then it's just it's just a lot. Then I close the gate and let them run outside in the yard.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I figured, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But they destroy everything.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's uh if I would leave stuff around, he'll destroy it. She'll destroy it. Um today. I thought I'd leave him nothing to destroy, but he found something to destroy. They always do. Yeah, I was like, I was like before I left, I was like, alright, there's there's nothing here. And left and then came back, and I was like, I I should have I should have expected that. He ripped up the P Pap. Luckily, no P on it. My flux capacitor, no.
SPEAKER_05:But what were we saying though?
SPEAKER_00:Uh nothing, just he he's just he really hasn't been I wouldn't say a handful. He's been really good, honestly, on listening and doing doing pretty good. Um the pea pads, he don't he I don't think he ever gonna understand the concept of a P pad. He gets up to it, doesn't pee on the P pad. He peeps beside it. He peeps beside it. Like I'm just like, yeah, this is this is this is pointless.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's it's past that stage, yeah, man.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was like, yeah, this is this isn't uh we're not gonna fix this. I just but it's just when I leave him out. Uh well leave him here and then I go I'll go out. But um apart from that, he he be he'd be pretty good. That that's really it. That's it look too crazy. I just gotta clean up basically the same thing. Every day I get here, I gotta clean up chill, bro. Santa Claus is a good thing. Santa Claus is at you, Santa Claus. I just heard something because I got a bone to pick with you.
SPEAKER_05:Let me tell you about some bullshit the school did to me.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead, bro. Tell tell them what the fuck is going on in school, bro. Tell them, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Oh no, no. I meant like from school when I was in elementary. Oh from when the teacher pulled me to the side and said, You can win, you can ask for anything. You can ask for anything you want.
SPEAKER_00:They didn't even get me.
SPEAKER_03:They they tried, but they couldn't. School's gonna buy it, is what they said.
SPEAKER_00:School got you, school got you, little as a bro.
SPEAKER_05:So I said, Yeah, let me get that PlayStation 5.
SPEAKER_00:Dang, PlayStation 3. Go in the future, build the time machine.
SPEAKER_05:Xbox 720 and give me a 50-90. I want this figure. No, I just like um they're told, like, they told us they're like, ask for what you want. And me being me, uh, a man that thinks beyond right, right, really, right, in the future. That's why I asked for the file. I'm still waiting. No, but um I told I asked them for the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360.
SPEAKER_03:That boy asked for two times that too.
SPEAKER_00:And cool, what was that back in the day?
SPEAKER_05:Like a million dollars. Like a million dollars. It felt like to the in today's economy is like a million dollars.
SPEAKER_00:But he asked for, he ain't asked for one. He he asked for two different.
SPEAKER_05:I ain't even ask for much. Really?
SPEAKER_00:If you think about it, it really ain't much. It really ain't much. Because really, what they could have done.
SPEAKER_05:Look, compare me to today's children.
SPEAKER_00:Asking for asking for what? What the fuck? Kids be asking for.
SPEAKER_05:AP on the wrist, buzz down. Richie Mill. Richie Mill.
SPEAKER_00:Uh Urs. Urs? What else? What else? 100K. 100k. A small 100K.
SPEAKER_05:Uh a lap dance from ice spice is what they be saying.
SPEAKER_00:See, they be looking at it. I'll be asking for the same thing.
SPEAKER_03:They be asking for too much, bro. They be asking for too much. Too much, not enough. Not enough. Not today's economy. Y'all don't got it. Y'all don't got enough ambition. You need to be asking for more. I want the world.
SPEAKER_00:That has to do everything in it. In today's economy, I feel like an old dude saying this and that. In today's economy, can't even be asking for all that. Can't even be asking for all that, man.
SPEAKER_05:Don't even think about it. Don't even ask it. You're already asking for two more.
SPEAKER_00:Christmas suggestion though at this point right now. It's just an if.
SPEAKER_05:Christmas looking like a firm right now. Christmas looking like a$300 payment every two weeks.
SPEAKER_00:You know, uh, Clarner is going, you see that? That they're going bankrupt. They're they're they're Tom. Uh damn, damn stutter much. They're thinking about going uh bankrupt. Uh-huh. They're filing for bankruptcy. Dang. And everybody on that was like, hey, don't do that. Motherfuckers talking about. I got lunch off Clarner. Like, I got 20. I got I got my uh Chipotle burrito off Clark. It's like we cannot, y'all cannot be doing this. Y'all need to pay them bills. It's like somebody ain't paying, we gonna find them. We gonna take care of them. Do not go bankrupt. I gotta, and everybody talking about I got a whole living room set off Clara. I better pay y'all fucking bills. I ain't loosen this. Bro, I can't hey, I can't blame them, bro. I saw the owner shit online one time, but that they probably telling me I can get all this for 15 decent payments of$18.99. Girl, don't tell me. I was the only that fucked the dog.
SPEAKER_03:I was already probably, yeah, they get they never getting they money. They never getting this. I'm gonna give them my old address.
SPEAKER_05:I'm gonna tell them I live there. I'm gonna tell I'm gonna change my name. I've been sitting all day, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Oh you go ahead, but we do this standing up, bro. We do this standing up. We walk around. We live streaming like that, but I'll bring the camera. I'll bring the camera around like that, bro.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna do it like uh what you call it?
SPEAKER_00:Uh stand-up. Go ahead, bro. Go ahead. Let out your grievances, bro. Go ahead, bro.
SPEAKER_06:Just instantly just start screaming, man. Start screaming like I'm going super sane.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, but that we say that we say that's what you need to do when you're too stressed out.
SPEAKER_05:That's how you need to just I do that, but the police gonna come knocking the wheels. I'm gonna be like that girl. I decided to do the thing where you go in the woods and scream. Oh, you see that scream in the network.
SPEAKER_00:Which one have you seen though? Because now I seen two that leads me to believe one of them is fake.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know. I seen the one where some girl, I don't know what she was wearing, but some dude literally came from behind a tree.
SPEAKER_00:Was it like a was it like a white lady or Asian lady? White lady. What lady? Okay, I think I think that may be the original one. Because then like maybe like a week after I seen like an Asian lady do the same thing. So same dude. Same same dude. I can't take a shit.
SPEAKER_05:Does a bear sit in the woods? No, but a man does. A man wearing an orange coat does.
SPEAKER_00:No, I'll um it it was it it that one looked more staged. It looked a little bit more like like rehearsed or something. You know, you can try to tell. But I feel like the first one that was more like some Jesse shit. Yeah, yeah, there you go. I feel like it was more authentic. The first one was more authentic. Maybe it could have been set up too, but at least it did it. Uh it just it just felt better. It just looked better.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, bro. I've just been hanging in there, bro. I'll get through it.
SPEAKER_00:You will believe in you.
SPEAKER_05:I just got make it till December 11th. That's when the last day of my class is, and I'm dropping out.
SPEAKER_00:Touch it. Touch it. I really just went for it. Give it up for the four there you go. That's the goal.
SPEAKER_06:Who the fuck's laughing at me?
SPEAKER_00:That's a goal right there. That's hey, that's how you do it. Think about this though. Now you about to be up in the 1% though. Cause every billionaire has dropped out of dropped out of high uh college. Not high school. Graduate, motherfucker. But college, drop out of college, drop out of the garage. I need a garage.
SPEAKER_05:All great things come from garage.
SPEAKER_00:All great things come from garage, bro. Fuck it, bro. Just build a garage, bro. It don't even matter, bro. Don't have shit in there, bro. Just it's the illusion of the garage. That's what it is. It's not, it's not, it's not the physical garage. It's the illusion. It's the thought of having a garage. I ain't never seen the garage. That's that's what you feel me. You feel never never never had a garage in my life. You feel me? That's I don't even know what a garage is. You need a garage. You need a garage to get ahead of life.
SPEAKER_05:Really, this is some words of inspiration.
SPEAKER_00:Just put some just put some two by fours and some pipes together. Let it sit there in your garage and be like, that that's an X, that's the Xbox 720 right there. Just think about that. That's how you start, and that's how you start.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, Jay done lost it.
SPEAKER_00:That's how you start.
SPEAKER_05:Who gives me this crazy advice? Bro, for free. I'm gonna tell you. All right, let me let y'all drop an advice. Let me give y'all some advice. For all the straight dudes out there. Alright. For the if only straight dudes can hear the I mean, hold on, Wait. Let me let me how's the joke go? Hold on. How's it go? Joke's so far, you already know it's coming.
SPEAKER_06:Advice for straight dudes. If you can't hear the advice, you're gay.
SPEAKER_00:Mmm, mmm, that makes sense. That makes sense. That's right. Why then I think about that? But I don't know what y'all think though. I'm down with that. I fuck with that. I fucked with that. With what you say, I fuck with what you're saying. When I really said fully heard and understand what you said. When I really said, yeah. I like the part. I like the part where you said you at least gotta suck it dick a day. I like that part. Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_06:Rewind the tape. I literally said.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, bro. Nah, I just been chilling, bro. That's that's pretty much it, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Damn, bro. But at least at least you still at least you still hanging on. At least you haven't gone full crazy, bro. That that's what matters, bro. Whoa. Well, never mind. Because some of the greatest minds go crazy. Go crazy. Because that's that's the the greatness of their mind. Their mind is so great that the brain can't comprehend.
SPEAKER_05:That the the brain wants to escape the garage. The brain, the body is the garage for the that's deep.
SPEAKER_00:That's deep, really.
SPEAKER_05:Y'all think about that for a sec. Let it soak in.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_05:Let it marinate. What y'all think?
SPEAKER_00:Put that on the grid. Flip it only three times.
SPEAKER_05:Not two times, because you're gonna mess up this here.
SPEAKER_00:Three times.
SPEAKER_05:But um enough about that. Let's go ahead and get to the subject, bro. Alright, bro. You gotta let these people know what this topic is about. This topic ain't. Oh, before, before, sorry, man.
SPEAKER_03:Go ahead, bro. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_05:Before we start, look, I know y'all are itching for Cosmic Cove to let y'all know about the whole lost colony. I know y'all itching for us to tell you about the time skips. Next episode.
SPEAKER_00:Let me tell you what happened. Let me tell you what happened. Today I was. So they all just brainstorming the room. I was like, I know we talked about stuff. I don't remember. I don't remember.
SPEAKER_05:I listened to the episode and just forgot.
SPEAKER_00:I just, I literally like I had just caught up. I I had just finished like a couple days. Nah, it was like a week. Nah, never mind. It was like a week before. Forgot it already. I forgot it. The moment somebody tells me their name, instantly forget. Instantly forget. So this was just another name in my brain. And uh I told Reverence, yeah, I got these things. What do you think? And then Reverence told me what it was, and I was like, fuck. What am I gonna do with these research? With these hours is crazy. Minutes of research.
SPEAKER_05:Oh shit. He's not lying, y'all. I can't blame him. You got it's all about proficiency. You don't gotta worry about all details and everything. It's all about push pushing the numbers, really.
SPEAKER_00:Really? That's all it is. The more I see on my page, the more I know I did. It's just the more I know I asked properly. How accurate did I ask Jat CPT to answer these questions for me? And that's all it's all depends on how many how many notes I have, really. Did I word the question correctly? Was my prompt correct? Was my prompt correct? But now, my fault, my fault. Alright, so this one let the people know what the topics is, yeah. So the first one we're gonna be talking about a little skeptical, a little serious, a little intriguing, is the third man syndrome. What is it, you may ask?
SPEAKER_04:What is it, yeah?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm not really sure. Alright. Uh, do you want me to start?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you got it right here.
SPEAKER_00:So the third man syndrome is a phenomenon of feeling feeling a comfort, comforting, unseen presence during an extreme crisis or life-threatening situation, even when physically alone. This third man provides encouragement, guidance, or even intervenes to help the individual survive, and is sometimes described as a spirit, guardian, or even a familiar figure. While spiritual or supernatural explanation is common, psychological interpretation suggests it's a survival mechanism, perhaps a hallucination or manifestation of the brain's creative capacity under extreme stress and isolation. So some of the details with the with the presence. Oh, you heard a little whistle. Survivors describe feeling another person's presence that is not physically there. So it's so 100% there's nobody there. And this can happen not just being alone, not just you by yourself, but it can happen if you have uh maybe two or three other people, you will still count someone else that's actually in the group. Um so it can be a vague feeling of warmth, uh, it can also be a voice or an actual figure or even a specific form that resembles a deceased loved one or another helpful entity. Um so it offers this presence offers emotional and physical support. Uh it also provides practical advice in some cases and instills a sense of hope and the will to survive when facing seemingly impossible odds. So this has been reported by explorers, climbers, soldiers, accident victims, astronauts, and survivors, survivors of other extreme events like being trapped in a collapsing building or lost at sea.
SPEAKER_05:The how do you feel about the third-person syndrome? Oh shit, what was that?
SPEAKER_00:I think I I'm not sure what it is. My fault, but I'm a bad day. I don't know what that's out now, huh? Right.
SPEAKER_05:Um What are your thoughts on it real quick before we dive the right?
SPEAKER_00:Oh I want to say, I've I've heard I've I've seen other cases where like a person's got in that car accident And they were like fading in and out of consciousness, and someone else uh uh they said that someone was telling them like like don't go yet. Like, so I already called like the I already called like the officer, someone's gonna be here for you right quick, and like they'll notice the person, but then like when they start talking to paramedics, like hey, I'm gonna thank that person's done like they'd be like, no, nobody was here. Like we somebody always called us, and then we ended up showing here. Um so um I know I want to say I've I've I've sort of experienced that, but I I'm not really sure. Oh, you experienced that? I want to say, but I can't remember. Like, I can't it ain't it's like a faint, it's like a faint memory. So I don't know if I'm just I'll I'll have to ask my mom on that. I forgot I ain't see her today, so um, but um uh I don't know. I think it's I think it's just a survival instinct. Like it's just it's just your body trying to maintain because the body does the brain, it's the brain is just the brain, it's a bunch of crazy shit, bruh. So I think it's coping everything. Yeah, I think it's just your brain just you try and tell the body to survive. Like just survive, you just survive, just survive, and like I guess like you hallucinate or whatever. So um it just I guess it just kicks off something in your brain or something to just just to make you stay, stay alive or whatever, whatever, whatever you're going through. But um, that's that's what I think.
SPEAKER_05:I agree too. I agree with that theory with the whole scientific thing. I mean, I'm not gonna push the whole spiritual thing because you know you never know what could be possible out there and everything like that, but it is nice to think that there is a explanation behind it both ways, like scientific and spiritual.
SPEAKER_00:Spiritual. Yeah, I feel like if it's spiritual, I feel like that maybe could be like your guardian angel or something, something of that degree. Um that's just spiritual, but I still think it it like it's just brain.
SPEAKER_05:It's it's actually a really good thing because I mean, think about it. You have your legs broken, you're in an accident, you you're pretty much giving up. Your brain's not giving up. Yeah, I will give up, yeah. Yeah, but your brain's not giving up. So what it does is it makes that person, obviously, like what the thing says, it makes somebody appear. But real, well, if it's like the scientific route, like your brain's like, all right, he's good, he's about to give up, but what if we show him that somebody's here with them? Then he's gonna be more likely to try to hang in there or something.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe or some shit. That's what I'm thinking. Because to what I was thinking about is like when I come on when I was little. That this is where I I think my parents were saying that I was talking to somebody. Like telling that, like, like, like telling, like, they were telling me like just to hang on. But that's what I don't I don't remember exactly. But it was it was something around the line. So that it it it was either that or I was just going dilutional from all the bloodlusts. What one of the two. It was one of the two. That ass, it was just one of the two.
SPEAKER_05:I said, That ass, but it was one of the two.
SPEAKER_00:But um, but I feel like it could just be your uh, I think it's just your your just last emergency type, like just survival type shit. But um, but yeah, that's that's what I think. That's what I think about that.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that's the same thing I think too, bro. I mean, real quick, there's like a guy I work with, there's like a little quick story.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
SPEAKER_05:The guy I worked with, his brother had gotten into a wreck right down the road from where they live. And this is before there had like a bunch of houses in that area. It was like all country. There's like a couple houses, but nobody really went down that road or whatever. Separated house, yeah. Yeah, it was like far away, like not much traffic or whatever. And um he had flipped the vehicle. I don't remember if it was a truck or whatever, but he had flipped it, and I think he ended up like getting out of the vehicle, and he was like all banged up pretty bad. And some car comes like down the road out of nowhere, and it's a lady, like old white lady, she's like has a white dress, has like gray hair or white hair, whatever, and she like comforts him and helps him, and then he manages to get home, but they could never figure out who that lady was because they knew everybody like around that area or whatever. I mean, obviously, cars come through the roads and everything, but for it to be at that spot at that time, for according to him, it's like really unlikely, and they could never figure out who she was or and the stories, the stories out of her has been always uh it's always it's been someone in like in like in white.
SPEAKER_00:It's always been someone like it's if it's not if it's not like a dress, it's been like uh he had like a white t-shirt or like he had like uh he had like a white suit, stuff, stuff like that. It's always been someone in white when they when uh of the stories it but those are just stories I've heard for the car crashes where it's someone else that where they think it's somebody else that uh helped them that helped them, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Alright.
SPEAKER_05:So I have one of the earliest accounts about the third man syndrome. So the third the term third man syndrome gained prominence through the experiences of Sir Ernest Shackleton and his crew during the 1914 to 1917 Imperial Transantarctic Expedition. After their ship, the endurance, uh, was trapped and eventually crushed by packed ice. Shackleton and his men embarked on a uh rough journey, like a rough hike or whatever you want to say. Um they had to go like across the Arctic ice to reach safety. So during this grueling trek, Shackleton reported feeling the presence of an unseen companion, stating, It seemed to me that we were four, not three. This sensation was shared by his companions, Tom Crean, Frank Worsley, who later revealed they had the same like same experiences and whatnot. And uh Shackleton's account in his 1919 book, South, is among the earliest recorded instances of the third man syndrome.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't really get much details about like what the person did or like um if I remember correctly, because I I I I found his I had his notes too. Um I think he they were like they would do head counts and it would be like four. And then they could sometimes see him on like on the corner of the eye. But they it's just like they say it felt like it would just they had a feeling of like keep pushing, keep pushing through, through like through everything they were going through. Um it's not really nothing I don't think they get like an actual interaction or anything. Like when in that type of situation, don't get like an actual, like, you know, where like on the car crashes when people uh um say they see someone or they talk to them. It's not really so much as it's talking, but it's just like as a feeling of uh of pushing through on that one. But I got I got another one. Um it was actually a story from from uh Ernest's book. From his book. So um uh so there was his British explorer Frank Smith, who almost became the first person to summon Mount Everest in uh uh 1933, along with his climate party, Smith made the intense journey towards the summit in poor conditions, but his party soon turned back after terrible weather and lack of oxygen, made the summit an impossible task. Smith continued, determined to complete the summit, but narrowly missed it by 304 meters. Uh while Smith was completely alone, this isn't how he remembered it, all the time, oh this is quote, all the time that I was climbing alone, I had a strong feeling that I was accompanied by a second person. The feeling was so strong that it completely eliminated all loneliness I might otherwise have felt. Uh at one point Smith was so convinced of his imaginary God that he tried to share some candle uh mint cake with with him, but upon turning around realized that there was no one there with him. So that's another that's another location. Yeah, he uh that that last part is what gets me. Because it's like he actually like you know, you so just you have the feeling someone being there, you know, that presence of someone being there, you know, you're in the middle of nowhere, and you turn around and give them give him a piece of your cake, and there's nobody there.
SPEAKER_05:No, I agree, bro. And then the fact that you were able to like have a conversation with them or whatever, it's just uh I don't know if he had a conversation with him. I thought you said he tried giving them the piece.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, he just tried giving him the piece. Oh, he just turned around. That he just turned around, yeah. He just turned around like to hand it to him and then like he was like, Oh, that's right, like there's like there's nobody there, so he was like, Oh. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, okay, I'm with you now. So So I got another one. This is Ron DiFrancesco. I think that's how you say it. It was a Canadian financial executive. Okay. He was the last known person to escape the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, shit. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:September 11, 2001. At the time he was working as the vice president at Eurobrokers, a brokerage firm located on the 84th floor.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, shit, okay.
SPEAKER_05:Keep in mind, 84th floor, the tower is coming down. Bro, like you can't take an elevator. 84 flights of steps, bro. Gotta gotta just clear each one, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Fuck it, just jump down the middle. I was about to say I'll jump down the middle, bro. Just catch myself on the last one. That's how you let me fall down. I'm gonna reach for that shit. My arms go.
SPEAKER_06:Velocity is afraid of this man.
SPEAKER_00:Velocity is afraid. You're gonna find my body with no arms. Boking kneecaps, no arms. Oh.
SPEAKER_05:Um so on the morning of September 11th, uh DeFrancesco was located was at his desk when United Airlines flight 175 struck the South Tower. Initially, he and his colleagues were uncertain about the severity of the situation. However, as the building began to shake and smoke filled, as the building began to shake and smoke filled the air, they realized the gravity of the attack. Like, can you imagine where you just see the airplane boom?
SPEAKER_00:That that was that was crazy.
SPEAKER_05:Hmm.
SPEAKER_00:That looked like I wouldn't know where when my brain I don't know, bruh. I don't know where my brain would be at that moment, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Right. Just I can't imagine, bro. Like, I cannot imagine what it was.
SPEAKER_00:Just seeing that, bro. I'm like, what the fuck? What the what do I do? I should have stayed home and played the Xbox. God damn.
SPEAKER_05:That but it's it's scary, bro, because you know some people just had the they just came to terms with and just jumped out, bro. Yeah, that was scary. That is insane. Like, rest in peace to all the people that were affected by it, bro. But the fact that your brain was like, well, not probably not the brain, but them, they were like, I need to get out. This is the only way I can do it. It just shows like the human the mind of the person I got.
SPEAKER_00:I know someone that uh they're from New York and they will walk like really by like literally by the track by the uh Twin Towers every morning and go to school. And that day that that happened, they took another route because their mom, they were running late or something. And so they will walk, they will walk to school, but since they were running late, uh, I guess they went through the I don't I I think it's a tax or something they took. So they went like a completely different way. But that was a day that so according to them, they would have been walking when that when the attacks like they would have been right underneath it when the attacks happened. Damn. But for some reason, that day, you know, they were just running late and they ended up. So maybe that would have not made that would have been part of the um something might have happened to them, you know. But who knows? But I'm I'm I was just it's crazy that that's the day that they didn't uh take that route.
SPEAKER_05:What's crazy is that one actor that's actually a firefighter during that time, what's his name that Bushini dude? What's his name?
SPEAKER_00:Oh uh Joe Buscemi?
SPEAKER_05:Is that his name?
SPEAKER_00:I think so.
SPEAKER_05:That dude that be on the Adam Saturn movies.
SPEAKER_00:That dude, yeah, yeah, that dude, yeah. That funky looking dude with his eyeballs. Let me see.
SPEAKER_05:It might not be that first name correct, but yeah, let's let's but he was a firefighter during that time, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, during the time? Uh-huh. Steve, Steve Buscemi.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, that's his name.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Steve. I said Joe.
SPEAKER_05:That is insane. Oh, so he was a firefighter during that time. Oh, they have pictures of him like he was there and everything. If I'm not mistaken.
SPEAKER_00:Oh shit, that's crazy.
SPEAKER_05:Right, but um, no, like like I was saying though, back to the third man syndrome. So this dude told like the plane hit the tower and everything, and I guess his brain finally responded, like, it's time to get out of here. So he attempted to evacuate by taking the stairwell. Obviously, that's all you can do, really. As he descended, he encountered a wall of fire and smoke, forcing him to retreat. He then decided to continue his descent, ultimately becoming the last person to exit the building before it collapsed at 9 59 a.m. During his experience, the Francesco experienced what is known as the third man syndrome, a phenomenon where individuals like experience, like we said, person seeing someone or having someone tell them what to do. So he said he described the feeling as though he was being led down the stairwell.
SPEAKER_00:Oh shit, okay. Instead of being behind the types of oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05:So he eventually made it down and he um he was hospitalized with severe burns and head laceration. He spent several days in a um medically induced coma. His doctors worked to stabilize his condition, and despite the physical and emotional scores, he eventually recovered and returned to his life in Toronto. But in the following years after attack, then Francesco became like an advocate for like resilience and mindfulness. Uh he just began talking about like uh um how to overcome like challenges and how to help prepare your mind for the stuff. Oh, okay, okay, for like stuff that happens, just rather stuff that happens over. How to help better your mentality to like comprehend situations and do stuff like that or whatever.
SPEAKER_04:But if I'm not mistaken, he said um he had said something about the person pretty like he heard a voice or something like that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, telling him like Yeah. Um that's crazy. Just like feeling like you're being like led, led down the stairs. Oh, man, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, yeah, here it is. Um as he navigated through the smoke-filled corridors, he heard a voice urging him to keep moving. The voice guiding him to safely, and he later attributed his survival to the third man's. Oh shit, okay, okay. So it was like a voice like, go, just keep going. And like we said, people have that thing that just tells them to keep going, keep going.
SPEAKER_00:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_05:That is insane right there.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, right. That's crazy. To have that feeling. Oh, but to have that feeling.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I can't imagine. But I mean, it's I can see the brain telling them to like keep going.
SPEAKER_00:Right. I mean, yeah, I mean, if you think about it, it is just a brain, but or it could have been his guardian angel, who knows? But but nah, that that does dope. All right, I got another one, uh, a little small one right here. This is Charles Lindbergh. So during his solo flight, described observing ghostly figures and hearing voices, providing a sense of not being alone. During his historic 1927 solo translat transatlantic flight while flying alone, Lindbergh sensed the presence of a helpful, unseen third man in the spirit of sound of St. Louis, who offered him comfort and advice on navigation, appearing as a transparent, human-like figure that ultimately guided him to land safely. So he actually saw I guess he saw a transparent human-like figure. So he was flying? Yeah, he was flying. So this was after 22 hours. Um uh so okay, so so he was exhausted and facing extreme conditions, including ice buildup and fog. And this was after after 22 hours, he became aware of a presence on board described as a transparent figure with human outlines. Um so yeah, it's just he just kept telling him, like just basically giving him telling him kind of what to do, guiding him in a sense, and telling him that he could uh he could make it. Um uh shit, I lost my okay. Just reassurance and navigational advice. And so he just he felt like he just wasn't alone up there no more. Um and then the unseen presses remained with him until he spotted the Irish coast near the end of his flight. That's when that's when he disappeared. Um so what I did find was also that the leading theory suggests that it is a survival mechanism, a product of brain's creative functions taking over during extreme stress, exhaustion, or sensory deprivation. Um, you ever experienced sensory deprivation?
SPEAKER_05:It was what?
SPEAKER_00:Like you ever experienced sensory deprivation?
SPEAKER_05:Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_00:You haven't? Okay, so uh you know that room that basically it's so quiet that you can hear yourself. So there's supposedly from it being so quiet, you start hallucinating, you start hearing stuff that's not even you can't even hear it. And there's another thing where I don't know if you've seen people that go into like this uh into this pod and they lay on the water and it like oh it gets clouded. The sensory pod, yeah. So they apparently was like hallucinate or like see stuff like that too. So that's basically what in the sense was going on with them. So that's what they're also saying that it could have just been like not it could have been the third messenger, but they're like this they're like what is like their analysis or whatever they found, uh text or whatever, it's saying that it could have just been a deprivation of all the of its senses from everything that was going on.
SPEAKER_05:It was them gremlins. You know what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_00:They got wet? The airplane was it's the movie was called Gremlin, right? Yeah, right. Well, no, but there's like a term that people Oh, you're talking about the actual ones that like you you remember in uh the Bugs Bunny one?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, where he had that gremlin though. That's a gremlin.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That's like essentially the thing that are gremlins just for airplanes, or or no, no, no. Okay, but it is the gremlins that be they be saying that they'd see on the plane or like they'd be fucking up. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_05:That's what they say, but it's more like a term for like the planes messing up, and you know, it was the gremlins that did it, not because of whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But I I don't know, it's it's just me being funny, I guess. But um, I don't know, bro. Like, what do you what do you think about the whole thing?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I know we talked about it and everything, but I it's it's it's an interesting thing, it's an interesting thing. Uh I mean I can't say I can't say I wish to experience it. Because I mean, every time you wish to experience it, I'm good. You're in like the most crazy situations. But I mean, fuck. If I were if I were gonna play Crash Land, Crash Land in the middle of a jungle, some shit like that, and then survive. I'll tell you if I had a third man experience, right now. It was like the third man, well, but that we're chasing you, boy. You gotta get out of it.
SPEAKER_05:Imagine, bro. Like, imagine, because this is like dangerous situations that you have to be in, but imagine you're just going to be like induced for surgery, and you just see a man just standing there.
SPEAKER_03:They've been case, they've been uh everything's gonna be okay or something like that.
SPEAKER_00:Nah, the worst part is it's not gonna be okay. Right before you go in out.
SPEAKER_05:No, right before you're going out, you just hear the doctor say, I can't believe he wants to do a sex check.
SPEAKER_00:Then you just what? You best believe our gentleman out that at that table. You best believe. The what? Why would he want to get rid of such a beautiful thing? Fuck it. I'll snip it off and get it wagging the fuck up.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, knockout right there.
SPEAKER_00:Right, bro. Oh my god, my head, my head will explode.
SPEAKER_03:I I would die on the table.
SPEAKER_05:I die on the table. I hear that shit. That's almost like out-of-body experiences. Like, you know, when people get like in surgery and everything, you know, they have them out-of-body experiences, like uh, like lucid dreaming in a sense. Yeah, but they've said like they were able to over like float over to doctors and see. See what they were, yeah. What they were that is crazy right there. That's a whole nother subject, though. That's a whole that's another that's hey, that's hey right after the lost colony. We'll get it to it. Right after lost colony, we'll get it.
SPEAKER_00:We might have to push the lost colony back a little bit.
SPEAKER_06:We just have to push the lost colony back. We're still looking for him.
SPEAKER_00:We got our best man on the no, well, we find them.
SPEAKER_06:We'll tell you about that.
SPEAKER_00:We'll tell y'all about it. Till then.
SPEAKER_03:Just like the lost treasure of El Dorado.
SPEAKER_05:We got y'all. Is that what it was? The lost treasure of El Dorado.
SPEAKER_03:You talking about the movie? Is that what it is?
SPEAKER_05:I thought it was like a real thing. Oh, was it a real thing? I thought it was. It's like that all that gold from Spain or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:That they left over over yonder. Is it a real thing? You telling me this whole time, I could have been a treasure hunter. A vault hunter, if you will. I thought it was a real thing.
SPEAKER_04:Oh no, it's it's not.
SPEAKER_00:It's not?
SPEAKER_04:Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_00:I was just about to start looking for it. I'd have gone two two blocks over, turn the left, start a day.
SPEAKER_05:I thought it was a real thing. No, it's not though. According to Google, it's not. I thought there was like a treasure thing though.
SPEAKER_00:Google could be wrong. You never I should use a real source. Wikipedia.
SPEAKER_05:But um, yeah, we'll talk about that on a different subject though. But y'all let us know what y'all think. Let us know if y'all have ever had any experiences with like third man syndrome or if y'all have any loved ones that ever had something like this happen to them or or anything like that. Y'all let us know. Y'all message us at Cosmic Cove on K-O-S-M-I-C underscore C-O-V-E on Instagram or TikTok. But let's go ahead and head off to the next subject. Y'all already know what time it is. It's time for that's right. That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER_07:Fear is it all in your mind, or could it be real? Welcome to fear. Fact or fiction.
SPEAKER_05:Really, I just be messing up on the noises to keep you on your toes. Because everybody's like, oh, he's just gonna play the noise.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. I gotta do it. Uh, you gotta expect the unexpected. That's that's the only way in life, really.
SPEAKER_05:I was gonna say, um, this topic was a good one because I didn't think about like I I kind of heard about it before, but I never really put much thought into it.
SPEAKER_00:All right, I'll admit it. I'm I'll tell you the way I found it. Honestly, I don't know how I found it. I have zero clues.
SPEAKER_05:I was just like, I just I already know what led to your discovery, though. Go ahead, tell them what it is first.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. I mean I'm intrigued to know your answer. Mongolian? Oh, well, okay, let me do it professionally. Today we're gonna be talking about the Mongolian death worm.
SPEAKER_05:The Mongoli roly-poly. The Mongoli wiggly wormy. They got acid. All right. Me, I thought you probably heard about it because of watching Tremors.
SPEAKER_00:Because that's essentially like that's essentially like I thought about Tremors after this. I was like, wait, this is just a fucking, this is just a fucking grub. What the fuck? What do they call uh I think they call them grubs, they got their name, right? They got like different names. Okay, so okay, so the the original, the first, the first form, um, I think they just call it grub, and then when they go into their second form, or is that the girl? I don't know, but I know the third form when it's offline, they call them ass blasters. I don't even know if I remember that one.
SPEAKER_05:They done lost the whole plot of the story. They done said, you know what, let's make another one.
SPEAKER_00:They should have that's one of those movies where you had a the first one was good, the second one was questionable. Don't make a third one. They got five.
SPEAKER_05:Is it five they have?
SPEAKER_00:It's five now, bro. Tremors was such a good movie. It was such a good movie, bro. I mean, still is the first one. Yeah, first one is still. I might watch it tonight, ain't gonna lie. Just just for nostalgic purposes, bro. I had bought the whole trilogy. I don't know what happened to them. Yeah, I bought it.
SPEAKER_05:Came out in 1990. Rotten Tomatoes gave it an 88. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:You know, finally, about finally, finally, because that one we cover, that one episode where they used handed out bad bad ratings for every good movie. Hey, I I ain't taking Rotten Tomatoes seriously, but they gave it an 88. So I might take it a little seriously now.
SPEAKER_02:Wait, what?
SPEAKER_00:What happened?
SPEAKER_04:This shit said they have the ultimate collection.
SPEAKER_00:Seven movies plus TV plus TV series. Oh, bro, I tried watching TV series, bro. It's just it's not good. It's it's okay. It's okay, but we would have came out a couple years ago. Like, not I'm talking about like in the early 2000s, it would have hit, but it came out like in I don't know, bro, but it's it's they just be dragging it low-key.
SPEAKER_04:Sorry, I had a text message real quick.
SPEAKER_05:But um, yeah, when you said it, like I said, it instantly reminded me of the death. I mean the tremors. Yeah. Because I didn't, I mean, like I said, I kind of knew what it was, but I was like, bro, what even is this?
SPEAKER_00:I I I don't I don't remember exactly how I came up with it. Like um, usually when I when you just find a like a cryptic, I got this app, it just shows all the cryptic. Oh shit. But you just pick a rich region, you just put a map on the wall, get it dark. Ooh, Loki. Nah, whatever you just be doing, nah, they got uh they got this thing I was I was gonna tell you to cover, but uh they ain't have enough information. It's called the Gucci. The Gucci. So today we're gonna be talking about the Gucci. We're gonna be talking about the Volvo. Um but no, that's it, it had one of those. I was gonna tell you that like a couple weeks ago, but I was like, hold on, before I actually send this message. I was like, hold on. I looked up as it doesn't have enough. No, it doesn't have enough. So um I will I want to say I found it through there, but I didn't even click on the app this time. Um I really don't know where it came from. But I'm glad we covered it. I'm glad we're gonna cover it actually. My bad, I'm from the future. Um uh well, that was a good episode. I'm glad we talked about it earlier. It's such a good episode. Um, nah, I'm just playing. So uh you you want me started? Uh yeah, you gotta run. All right, all right. All right, so the Mongolian Deathworm, or alright, bro. All right, you got it. So shit like that. It sounds like that though. That's it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh as you were saying, and I was reading it. I'm gonna pull up shot it.
SPEAKER_00:You feel me? Oh, I put a curse on her. So it's uh it's a legendary crypto.
SPEAKER_05:Over here sound like tota ain't get the roll, my we ain't getting the road.
SPEAKER_00:Mouse that pleasure, bro. Please, you the best, bro. You the best, you the best, me boy, you boy, you girl. Well, that dude's so funny, bro. He's so funny, yeah. Alright, so so let me do it again. The Olgo Kordagoi. It's a legendary cryptic from the Gobi Desert, said to be a large one meter, pretty average me, red, sausage-shaped creature. Some sometimes depicted with a spike-like projections. Um, legends claim it can kill. Check this out by spinning corrosive acid, discharging electricity, or even through a poisonous touch, death worms will reportly shoot up from beneath the sand without warning to kill its food. Camels, uh, well, its food consists of camels and rodents, but unaware humans can be prey as well. Whole Pokemon.
SPEAKER_05:This thing sounds crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_00:It's it's a three-type Pokemon right there, but it got it got poison damage, it got uh electricity, bro. Electricity, it got ground attacks. Uh she just she just be moving crazy, bro.
SPEAKER_05:She just everything, bro.
SPEAKER_00:She just everything, bro. It's like what a Diglet should be. Look, I'm gonna stand through about Digglet's man.
SPEAKER_05:There it's the bottom half of Diglet. Big buff ass dude. Um people worried about the sea, bro. They need to worry about that sand if they was out there.
SPEAKER_00:Fuck the sea, fuck the sea, bro. We need to focus on all this sand. Why is there so much sand? And all that, why is there so much sand? What they gotta be something hiding in that sand. Gotta be. Something. Something. Y'all tell us though. Y'all tell us, y'all do the research, y'all invoke in this voyage, look at the notes, come back to us and let us know. And let us know. All right, so many locals are convinced of the existence of these mysterious creatures. Even the Mongolian prime minister Damden Bazar described the death worm to a Western explorer in 1922. Uh Czech cryptozoologist Ivan Macrel is credited as being the foremost investigator of the death worm. He learned of the worm from a student and made the trip to South Mongolia in 1990 to uncover more. His investigations were difficult. As he found, many Mongolians were loath or loath to speak of the legendary beast, making it more complicated. Was an order by the Mongolian government outlawing the searches for the death worm. Why?
SPEAKER_05:Why why am the whole government said, yeah, they out there, but y'all can't go.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, they're trying to hide something. If I know if I know government, they're trying to hide something. Eventually the band failed, and Mac uh Mackerel was able to search for answers. In his book, I'm not trying to go ahead, bo. Get that, get that girl to go call his tribe.
SPEAKER_05:Umgoleski Jahadi.
SPEAKER_00:He said it.
SPEAKER_05:Jadi.
SPEAKER_00:C Sands, I know the language. I'm gonna tell you what that translates to. Mongolian mystery. Magical Chronicle, the worm from this from secondhand reports. The creature is described as a sausage-like worm, over half a meter long and thick as a man's arm, resembling the intestine of cattle. Its skin serves as an exoskeleton, molting whenever hurt. Its tail is short as if it were cut off, but not tapered. It is difficult to tell if it's head from its tail because it has no visible eyes, nostrils, or mouth. So apparently that was that was a eyewitness testimony, apparently. So, but he never uh mackerel himself never witnessed it. Uh eventually Macro eventually determined the the Olgo Cortiki could be real. Uh Lifesteign quotes British biologist Dr. Carl Shulker, author of the book The Unexplained. Shoker describes the legendary beast as one of the world's most sensational creatures, concealed amid the scents of the southern Gobi Desert. Uh, it spends much of its time hidden beneath the desert sands, but whenever one is spotted lying on the surface, it is scrupulously avoided by the locals. So maybe that that's what leads to some of the people not talking about it, or like they just fear that much, you know.
SPEAKER_05:Um probably believe in that as long as you don't talk about it, you ain't gotta worry about it. I mean, sometimes that works though. If you say its name three times when you're bathroom looking at yourself, it'll come out and get you. It'll come out the toilet and get you. I warned y'all, I warned y'all, I warned y'all.
SPEAKER_03:Not me. Um no. Don't attack me while I'm sitting on the toilet.
SPEAKER_05:I really hate for something to just get me when I'm nice and vulnerable.
SPEAKER_06:What y'all do with that sound clap what you will.
SPEAKER_00:Say that said to my rington. Although the creature is believed to remain mostly below ground, sightings are said to be more common in June and July. Some say it will only come out when the ground surface is wet. So think about that. Only when the ground surface is wet. What else comes up when the ground surface is wet? Worms. Worms. And it's the desert, it'll be raining all the time.
SPEAKER_05:Oh no, it's probably gonna really go for some water right now.
SPEAKER_00:They're probably drowning to be and the camel. And the camel. What holds the most water? Camels.
unknown:Mmm.
SPEAKER_00:Humans are 70% water.
unknown:Mmm.
SPEAKER_00:We yo. Hey, yo, it's this man thinking. His brain works. Bro, somebody grabbed me a full scholarship to go explore the desert.
SPEAKER_06:You get there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, enough of that.
SPEAKER_03:Tell them to get the rest of this money to go blow it at the casino.
SPEAKER_00:I think that's reasonable person would do.
SPEAKER_05:Somebody who comes with the camera. Yayo, yeah, yo. We see that you're back from your adventure. How did everything go? No cameras, please.
unknown:No cameras.
SPEAKER_00:Still got my full set up. Uh Shulker himself never reported whether they've seen the Megolian death worm. But hypothesis hypothesizes that the worm might be the carnivorous Jesus, these words. Amphi's Bainid. I got this. A limbless. We're gonna move on. A limbless burrowing lizard that lives in warm climates. Other researchers suggest the description loosely matched the death adder, a member of the cobra snake family. Or the death adder found in Australia and New Guinea is physically similar to the death worm and is able to spit venom several feet.
SPEAKER_02:Oh shit, that one is.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. According to these people, according to I know it could spit venom. Well, it's a follow the family of the cobra. So I mean it makes sense. Um, do you want to keep going?
SPEAKER_04:Um you're still gonna talk about what they say it might be?
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:All right, you got you got you.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. In 2005, a cryptozoological team led by British cryptozoologist and author Richard Freeman ventured into the Gobi Desert to search for the creature. Uh that didn't encounter the elusive legend. They documented testimonies from locals and collected samples of the desert soil. These efforts aim to shed light on the possible existence of the Mongolian deathworm. Um scientists, yeah. I just got some more explanations because about scientists. That's fine. Scientists and skeptics offer alternative explanations for the rumors of the Mongolian deathworm. Some propose that the creature may be a misidentified known animal, such as species of large burrowing skink or an unknown species of legless lizard. Others suggest that the tales uh surrounding the creatures are purely based on folklore, perpetrated by the region's rich storytelling traditions. Uh, one theory proposes that the Mongolian deathworm could be a surviving relic from prehistoric times, a living fossil that has adapted to the harsh desert environment over millennia. This hypothesis draws parallels to other cryptures believed to be remnants of ancient creatures such as the long-ness monster or the Yeti. Um apart from that, I just got I just ended up with uh four of the different things that it could be if uh if not if nothing else.
SPEAKER_04:I saw some some people said it could be like a sandboa.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, sandbo.
SPEAKER_04:They said that um go ahead, but you got that boy.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead.
SPEAKER_04:That's pretty much it.
SPEAKER_00:They just said it could be, yeah. Um so these are non-venomous snakes belong to the family of people. Oh, that's what I was trying to say earlier. Bodie Bodie Bodet. Uh it's just a San Boa snake, it's name for its adaptation to sand environments, and it's known for its brewing behavior. So, I mean, it's a it's a pretty big is it is it a big snake? I'm not too sure. But I mean, a meter. At least a meter.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know how big that is. Sanboa size. Google, how big is a San Bower? Let's type up size. It says it can get as big as 15 to 32 inches. Some reaching 32 to 36 inches.
SPEAKER_00:32 to 36. That's about that's about two of my day to put it together. I'm trying to imagine how big that is. You feel me? Um that's it, it's it's average size. Yes, it's average size. I was gonna say, I I don't think, no, because they're saying a meter.
SPEAKER_05:So I don't think it's big enough for some people were saying like five to six foot long. The sad the not sandbo is the um deathworm.
SPEAKER_00:The deathworms? Five to six, that's what, two meters? Is it how much how hold on first thing I had up here and I forgot it already. Look at that. Uh yeah, one meter is three feet. So about five to six, it'd be about two feet, two meters. Two meters. Two meters. Damn. So you said one meter. So it's about six feet. By six feet would be two meters. Damn, that's that's that's kind of big, though. That is pretty big. That is kind of big. Well, I mean, compared to like a headaconda and everything, it's not but it's it's it's thicker. Well, according to according to according to it's all about the girth. That's really where all the important things are.
SPEAKER_03:It's not about how thick man that's overrated. It's not about that.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, look, two inches, take it. But it's 15 inches thick.
SPEAKER_06:Somebody government come pick this man.
SPEAKER_00:Baby, I saw you breakfast on that dick.
SPEAKER_06:Who got them things? You know how some tribes be put like that. What the hell he got in there? Oh shit.
SPEAKER_05:What were you saying that was my phone?
SPEAKER_00:Say what the fuck's I say? Um, goddamn.
SPEAKER_05:God damn, what the fuck was I gonna say? You're talking about the animals and everything. I mean the size of it and everything.
SPEAKER_00:Size matters. Uh no.
SPEAKER_03:Um, you were gonna say something else?
SPEAKER_00:No, something about that. Damn, I forgot. No, no, you're good. No, that was a good one. My phone, my phone. Oh, you're good. Um we'll go back to it. We'll come back. We circle around, we circle around. We'll circle. We circle around.
SPEAKER_05:You know how the brain works. You know how to be. Sometimes it invents people to be there when you're in your life.
SPEAKER_00:The brain's like the NASCAR racetrack, you know. It's just burning all the way around.
SPEAKER_05:All right, so there are some notable encounters, according to legend. Okay, okay. You found it. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. So the nomadic shepherd's tail, which is a Megolian shepherd, reported seeing a large redworm-like creature emerging from the sand. Okay, he claimed it hissed and spat a yellow substance at his camel, causing the animal to collapse instantly. Oh, okay. The shepherd fled the area and never returned.
SPEAKER_00:That would they say. Should have should uh should have put a pin mark or something like that, so you remember where it's at tell everybody we saw.
SPEAKER_05:He was like on that dude over here. Alright, so there was like two more that I got. The tourist experience. So a foreign tourist tourist traveling through the Gobi Desert described witnessing a large snake-like creature moving beneath the sand. The ground reportedly rippled as the creature traveled, but it never surfaced, only leaving the trail behind.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, okay. With that, with that, I do know, I do know, because natural natural geographic is to be showing you everything. That there are some snakes, like this uh because he just saw it, right? He saw a barrel, but didn't really see it yet. I know there's some vipers and stuff like that that they'll they'll get underneath the sand and that's how they that's how they hunt or escape other uh other predators. So he could have just seen him too, and was like, nah, I gotta get out of here. Gotta skedaddle.
SPEAKER_05:Alright, so this is another one. During an expedition in the 1990s, a team of researchers claimed to have found a series of unusual tracks in the sand. The tracks resembled some resembled those of a large burrowing creature, but not definite, but not definitive identification could be made.
SPEAKER_00:That's another thing. Okay, that's another thing. I do know with some of the snakes in the desert, they'll leave like this weird. It's not it's not like this. It's like a it's like a weird, they leave a weird pattern as as they uh Oh for real. Yeah, it's a weird pattern. It's not like you know, you you know, you expect the snake to slither around and like it leaves a little like obviously a little curvy line, whatever. The way they turn or whatever, it'll like it's just like a straight mark right here, and then another mark right here, but it's going straight. Does that make sense? Okay, so like right here when I pen says, Yeah, so as it goes, I don't know exactly, I don't remember exactly how I move, but like it'll turn a certain way, which it'll leave a mark right here, and then when it touches back on the on the for the listeners, imagine like uh like a pound sign, but without the two lines going across, right? There you go. Like two parallels. Equal sign, if you will.
SPEAKER_01:Oh if only if only there was a shape shape.
SPEAKER_06:What is this? If only mankind could advance, if only someone needs to make this now.
SPEAKER_00:Imagine the monastery.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, chat. I'm gonna come. He said, get a load of this college boy. Yeah, I'ma head home. I'ma think about this when I sleep tonight. I'ma wake up. Fuck, you idiot. How could you let your brain? It wasn't even me, it's my brain.
SPEAKER_05:See, my brain just be saying some stupid shit sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:That's the third man. That's what it is.
SPEAKER_05:It's the third man in me.
SPEAKER_03:The third man in you. Y'all know. Y'all know. Wow. That's what it's called. It's getting freak over here, call freaky ass calling colour. It's after hours. After hours.
SPEAKER_05:It's 9 11.
SPEAKER_02:Make a wish.
SPEAKER_00:Make a wish.
SPEAKER_05:Sorry, y'all. My brain's cooked now. I'm just thinking. I'm just I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what to say. Alright, next topic. I wish it happens again. No, but what you think about it then? Break this thing.
SPEAKER_00:You know me. You know me. Uh uh. Hey, uh a cryptic. What's the word I'm looking for here? I wish this cryptists would be real. A cryptic believer, if you will, or cryptic uh uh enthusiast. There you go. Sound professional, sound better than a fucking nut job. Um I believe in monsters. I believe in monsters. I feel like the alien guy, the ancient alien guy. Ancient aliens. Yeah, the ancient alien guy aliens. Cryptids. They're out there. Um if only someone had a term for what these crazy creatures were. If only for these monsters, these devilish looking creatures, these rejects from hell. Um I want to believe that this is real. I want to give the benefit of the doubt that it's just that elusive. That it's just but for me, what makes it or makes it uh what is it called? Like uh what discredits it. Not not really discredits it. What gives me a little bit more of a believable factor is well it was the whole government trying to like ban it or like you can't look for not look, you can't come on, right? Why they know something that we don't, you know. So you can't go right now because it's probably making season or hunting season for them. Something like that. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just I'm just speculating here. I'm just but a humble tell us, Mr.
SPEAKER_05:Montgomery. So that's don't make no noise. They like noise.
SPEAKER_03:Put a gallant gun right there. I don't y'all y'all won't know what it's for, but put it right there.
SPEAKER_00:Bro, the moment said don't make no noise every little thing. Sorry, bro. But that movie is crazy. But I would like to believe that this is this is real. They just haven't just haven't caught one. I feel like probably someone did catch or like find one, dead.
SPEAKER_05:How would you catch one?
SPEAKER_00:Since they emit electricity, not only electricity, but the corrosive acid too. That's what I'm that's what I'm thinking. Like, I feel like they could have caught one, but they died because they ain't know exactly what they were, um, or like they didn't take all the precautions for it. And they spit on it, so they either spit on them, electrify them, electrocuted them, they probably passed out there and got out whatever it had and killed them. That's that's what that's what I'm guessing. That's just what I'm guessing. I feel like people maybe have seen it, but they're not. They die. They die, they just died. And then, you know, everybody dies, and you got nobody, no, nobody saying, oh, you know, you can catch one or whatever, you know. So I just feel I just feel I just feel like it's it's real, it's just very elusive. And like I said, if anybody, this man should catch one, they just they don't make it, they don't make it out. That's what I think. That's what that's this is I don't know though. I don't know. I don't know. You gotta say that then. Right, you gotta say that so you don't sound that crazy.
SPEAKER_03:All right. I don't know though.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know. Me personally, excuse me. Me personally, I think this dude's crazy. He needs help. I already called these people, they're coming in the big band.
SPEAKER_00:It's gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_03:It's gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_05:He's gonna get a sweet jacket that makes him hug himself. It's all about self-love. But no, um, me, I don't know, bro. Like, uh, because obviously we don't know like every specimen and creature that's on this planet, especially the ocean. Like, the ocean's like one of the craziest places to like even think of it.
SPEAKER_00:And the deserts used to be oceans at one point. So you don't know. Well, you don't know something, a death or something.
SPEAKER_05:A San Megalodon. Hey, people laughed until we got bull sharks.
SPEAKER_00:I tell you in salt water, I mean freshwater.
SPEAKER_03:People were laughing, and then they saw a bull shark coming into the freshwater.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, hey, you're right.
SPEAKER_03:You right when you hey when you're right, you right. Hey, New Yorkers were laughing until they had alligators and just saying.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, hold on laughing, and then and then she go shake go sour. Hey. I'm just I'm just saying. No, I ain't gonna lie, like the the the Tremors movies had a hole on me too, but for a minute I was worried, but like I stepped out my house when I was living. I said, dog, we ain't got no rocks in this bitch.
SPEAKER_05:Oh man.
SPEAKER_00:I look at my house.
SPEAKER_03:This shit, I survived this shit torn the fuck up. They're gonna go straight through my living room, eat my Xbox. Then what am I doing? What the fuck am I gonna do, bro? I said, this shit none but power, man.
SPEAKER_00:And the cows in the back. Oh, my god, but I would have started seeing them cows just start disappearing. Um I'm running, I'm running straight to the uh I'm running straight to the street. That's the only asphalt I know. I don't know. It needs it needs like actual actual rock, right? For them to die, I think. Some shit like that. But I don't know. I would like to think they're real. I would like to well, what you think? You like I said, I think this dude.
SPEAKER_05:I'm just joking on him. I don't know, bro. Like I said though, like you never know what's out there. Like, obviously, there's like countless species we haven't like found or anything like that. Right, right. But it is interesting to think, like, what if there's stuff we don't know about in the desert? You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00:Because we know that for a fact in the ocean. There's stuff we don't know in the ocean, but yeah, in the desert, because nobody be thinking, you know, it's it's a harsh environment too, you know. It's not you can't bring a ship on the desert.
SPEAKER_05:I mean, because they got scorpions in the desert. Like, who would have thought? Yeah, there's this thing that has venom and it looks like a really evolved ant.
SPEAKER_00:If I'm not mistaken, maybe, maybe, maybe I'm just talking down my ass right here. I'm almost certain that there were like sea sea scorpions back in the like back in prehistoric times. Oh shit, I didn't know that. They're like, they look like scorpions. They look like scorpions. If I'm not mistaken, I'm but they used to be like uh bottom daughters or like or the bottom feeders, where they are. But yeah, they they used to be like aquatic, aquatic deserts. Um and like during prehistoric times and shit like that. So I didn't know that. And that's what one of the things they were saying was like maybe it's a survival from prehistoric times. So now we got deserts on land.
SPEAKER_05:Do you know the biggest desert in the world?
SPEAKER_00:No, which one?
SPEAKER_05:Take a guess.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like this is a I feel like this is your test. Uh it's a trick question. It's the biggest desert in the world?
SPEAKER_02:Uh huh. I don't know. Let me make sure I get it right.
SPEAKER_00:All right, go ahead, go ahead. All right. Well, you you tell me what you're doing. Oh, the biggest desert? Just because uh just because we in right now we we talk about the Mongolian uh death worm. I think it's the Gobi Desert. No, bro. What is it?
SPEAKER_05:The Antarctic polar is the world's biggest desert. What? Just because it's a desert doesn't mean it has to be cook- I mean hot. A desert just like a vast Ah, I don't want to have trade questions.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you should have gave me multiple multiple answers.
SPEAKER_05:Now, the Sahara is the world's largest, hottest desert, but but the largest is the Antarctic polar. Okay, okay. It's 5.5 million square miles. Damn. The Arctic desert is the second largest desert covering 5.4 million.
SPEAKER_00:Now think about this Mongolian Arctic worm.
SPEAKER_05:Mmm. The great Alaskan bull worm. Ever heard of it?
unknown:What happened?
SPEAKER_00:I was cooking with that one. I said, yeah, he might have said something.
SPEAKER_06:You never see y'all never seen the gray, hairy monster.
SPEAKER_00:Alaskan bullworm.
SPEAKER_03:You never seen it.
SPEAKER_00:Never my life, bro. Never my life, but what I'm like, bro.
SPEAKER_03:What? The Alaskan bullworm. Alright, if y'all don't know what that is, look it up. Y'all gonna be scared. I do it. Yeah, I already know what this man is going.
SPEAKER_04:Look at that vicious, bruh.
SPEAKER_02:Vicious creature, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Look at that. Another Spongebob reference for the Costco. That shit is crazy. That shit is crazy. That shit is crazy. And that and that and that's real. And that's real right there.
SPEAKER_05:And that's real. But um I don't know, bruh. I guess I'm like 50-50.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05:Only because we don't know what's out there.
SPEAKER_00:Wrong, but wrong.
SPEAKER_05:But the other half is like hope is hopeful. I'm in the middle, bro. I'm in the middle. 50-50. Okay. Well, 60. I'd like to believe there is, but I'm still 40% skeptical. Like, that shit too hot. That shit too hot.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:But then again, you got snakes living out there and they chilling.
SPEAKER_00:You got spiders living out there. And they chilling. And they chilling. You got birds living out there.
SPEAKER_05:And they chilling.
SPEAKER_00:You got cactus living out there. And it's chilling. And they chilling.
SPEAKER_05:You got people living out there.
SPEAKER_00:You got, I don't know, they're chilling, but they're out there.
SPEAKER_03:They out there in that heat. For whatever fucking reason, they out there. Mad as hell.
SPEAKER_00:Just squinting all the time, just sand everywhere. Um what would you rate this, bro?
SPEAKER_05:If I was to rate the I mean the Alaskan boy. The Mongolian deathworm for its lethality and everything, bruh, this thing like a this thing like a nine for me. Nine ten.
SPEAKER_00:That's full of if we just look in pure what it can do. Nine ten. It's just the lack, the lack of like more more evidence. But like I said, they probably could have caught it. They just died. They didn't know what they have.
SPEAKER_05:I'll give this one a 10, fuck it. Because it has it can shock, it has electricity, it has venom, it's big, it moves, it burrows. It's basically Mewtwo. Basically.
SPEAKER_03:I give it a 10, bro. Fuck it. All right. All right.
SPEAKER_00:Where's my golden buzzer? All right. I give this a five. Let me just not explain. No, just playing. No, it's a 10 for me too. Just just based on what, like, if it if it's real. And I'm more on the believing side of it. It can be real. I'm believing this can be real. I can see it. I can see it being real, but I won't give this a 10. But if I find out this shit not real. I'm going to crash out. I'm going. I'm going to turn into a uh Mongolian death worried. I'm going to make this thing real. I'm about to be like that one scientist just making weird weird experiments. Turn myself into a work. I'm going to turn myself like uh like uh what is it? What is that dude? Uh from Spider-Man? Uh the lizard. Oh fuck.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, I forgot his name. I don't know what I'm saying. You know who I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna jump myself with worm DNA. Just end up like a regular worm, not even that much.
SPEAKER_05:Reverence, come here. You won't believe what happened to me, Reverence. Just a tiny worm inching. Where the fuck are you? Don't step on me. Don't step on me.
SPEAKER_00:That that's that. That's a real little question right there that girls be asking.
SPEAKER_05:If I was a worm. Would that still be in the podcast?
SPEAKER_04:But um, I don't know.
SPEAKER_05:Y'all let us know what y'all think, though. Let us know if y'all believe in the uh Mongolian death worm. Let us know if y'all have any information about it. If y'all, if y'all ever seen it, if y'all have any stories from your family. I don't know. Y'all let us know if y'all believe in it or not. Or what do y'all rate it?
SPEAKER_00:The Mongolian. I feel like there's a tribe out there. That rides of oh shit.
SPEAKER_05:Like like Dune, the movie. They got the movie.
SPEAKER_00:They really just be if you look at it, movies are based off real life.
SPEAKER_05:Toy story. Y'all not sticking with the program.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, hell no.
SPEAKER_03:I'll be fucking real. SpongeBob out of water movie. Come on now. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00:A sponge out of water. That's criminal. But uh, nah, I I I hope I hope this thing is real. I just hope this thing is real. I'm praying. No, no, pray is too much. Pray is too much.
SPEAKER_05:I hope this is real. Because I'd like for some of this dangerous to be walking.
SPEAKER_00:But um, that's all I got for that, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Like I said, y'all let us know what y'all think. Uh messages at cosmic cove at K-O-S-M-I-C underscore C-O-V-E. And yeah, we're gonna head off to the next topic. Ah, yeah. Ah, uh, yeah. Ah, yeah. Uh uh, yeah. Alright. So to end this off, we got a good, nice little concept.
SPEAKER_01:Little scene.
SPEAKER_05:Huh? Little. I I looked up all the details. It all felt filled like fitted in one paragraph.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, Tyson.
SPEAKER_05:No, tice it.
SPEAKER_00:The first one I did was a little too too relaxed. I said, nah, let me let me do this just because I remember some of the details, and I was like, I'm not covering half the like the like the interesting, yeah, interesting uh points that I was like, yeah, let me redo this over. So I had I had two, we started halfway through. I said, this ain't enough. I need more. Right. I need more information.
SPEAKER_05:Because you wanted the sound good, you want it to flow good, you want some suspense added to it, you want some build up.
SPEAKER_00:Because I like the way we did the other one, the one uh where uh the the with the one with the fire. I like how we did that one. The fire? The um the fire that happened at the house? I think it's the last episode. I forgot what their um I forgot what what is what the case is called. But I like how we did that one. That one was uh at least listening back to it. It was it was very entertaining.
SPEAKER_05:So go ahead, let them know what it is then.
SPEAKER_00:This is Madea goes to no deal goes to the DMV and applies for food at the DMV. You gotta keep people on their toes. Chill buddy, chill, chill, sit. Oh, sit, sit. Okay, okay. Okay, thank you. Sit down.
SPEAKER_05:I already know how you're gonna start off, and I got a little quick fun fact before you start off.
SPEAKER_00:All right, go ahead. I mean, go ahead, sit down. Oh, I was gonna say. So this is about the DB Cooper hijacking.
SPEAKER_05:All right, before you continue, did you know that it's not DB Cooper? It's Dan Cooper.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah. So the DB Cooper was just uh just by media. They just ran with it, but the alias he gave on on what y'all about to see, he put down Dan Cooper.
SPEAKER_05:That's what the FBI, that's what the FBI was working with. That's that's all they had. That's all they had.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe it was Cooper Dan.
SPEAKER_05:It was Cooper Dan. Maybe he actually gave them their real identity, but they're like, these bozos got it. Right.
SPEAKER_03:But maybe perfect escape. Oh my god. But go ahead, let the people know what this is, y'all.
SPEAKER_00:So I'm gonna start it off. I'm gonna start this. I'm I got this in story format.
SPEAKER_05:I got this in uh so it was on a Sunday morning.
SPEAKER_00:Close. It will it was Monday now explaining. It was I didn't get the extra damn location. Went back.
SPEAKER_05:All right, so it's ruined. Look it up and enjoy this.
SPEAKER_00:Look it up, take this out. You said Sunday, right? Was it did you know it was Sunday or no no? I don't know if you want to look this up, see what day it was.
SPEAKER_02:Go ahead and look it up.
SPEAKER_00:It was November 24 1971. Oh my god. Did not ask the great question.
SPEAKER_05:Hold on, y'all. Give us a sec. We're doing a little quick research.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it was Wednesday.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, it was Wednesday. Fuck.
SPEAKER_00:Close you all by the way. Perfect day.
SPEAKER_05:A perfect day, really.
SPEAKER_00:To do this a Wednesday, never see it coming. This is this is this is Saturday or Friday activities right here. Wednesday, your your guard is low, bro.
SPEAKER_05:At the lowest, because you're already recovering from the weekend, but also thinking about the weekend. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:You think about the weekend, Monday, Tuesday, gone. Worst days, that was your worst day. Wednesday, you having the good day. You're not even thinking about this. And now you you only got Thursday and Friday coming up. So that's what you look at.
SPEAKER_05:Then the man comes in and does his thing.
SPEAKER_00:Then the man.
SPEAKER_05:He does. Well, that was your oh what he do. What'd he do?
SPEAKER_00:What he do?
SPEAKER_05:What did he do?
SPEAKER_00:He did something. Y'all about to find out.
SPEAKER_05:You won't believe what this is. Y'all gonna hear these notes. Y'all gonna hear these.
SPEAKER_00:Y'all won't believe what this man did at the So this man on Thanksgiving Eve, November 24th, 1971, a man carried that black attache case. That's just a fancy word for briefcase. I looked it up.
SPEAKER_06:You didn't know what an attached case was that was.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, attache case. I was like, the fuck, what the fuck is it?
SPEAKER_05:It's just the terminology. Yeah, it's just a terminology.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's just like a little briefcase.
SPEAKER_05:It is a certain thing, but it's just it's just a briefcase.
SPEAKER_00:I was about to say, it's like where people were calling something, there was a certain thing. I didn't know what the fuck it was.
SPEAKER_05:I only know this because my girlfriend used to work at a bank. I mean, she's she does, but she used to work at this other bank, and her coworker was a dude, and he always had his attack attache.
SPEAKER_03:He always had attache. And he said, This isn't a briefcase.
SPEAKER_00:You telling me you we just found out where DB Cooper's at?
unknown:Oh my.
SPEAKER_00:Nobody else in the world uses attache. Except but two people so far that I've heard of. What was his name? Not explain. His name was Dan Cooper.
unknown:Damn.
SPEAKER_05:I didn't even put it together until you said it. Go ahead. What are we saying down my phone, bro?
SPEAKER_00:So this Black Eyeshake case approached the flight counter for Northwest Orient Airlines at Portland International Airport. Using cash, the man bought a one-way ticket on flight 305. A 30-minute trip north through Seattle, Tacoma International Airport. On his ticket, the man listed his name as Dan Cooper. Eyewitnesses described Cooper as a white male in his mid-40s. My bad. With dark hair and brown eyes, wearing a black or brown business suit, a white shirt, a thin black tie, a black raincoat, and brown shoes. Dang, I remember all this from seeing one person one time. Damn.
SPEAKER_05:Look, when the fit is clean, the fan.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, Loki, that fame must have been clean. Hey, you got your best shit of hijack. Hey.
SPEAKER_05:Hey, you got low-key, because they said they said, according to some conspiracies, he looked like a man who um like a professional.
SPEAKER_00:I know he felt hey, he felt like us when we go pick up uh that TV. Remember we put up I know he was feeling right that day.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody in Best Buy said, Dang, these motherfuckers gonna buy the whole store, right? And then put that shit in the back of that.
SPEAKER_00:Damn, man. I was feeling like a bad baby that day.
SPEAKER_05:I I couldn't relate, I could understand completely.
SPEAKER_00:We both came out there and we talked about Damn! Alright, so Doctors. So uh he was carrying a briefcase and a brown paper bag. Uh Cooper boarded Flight 305. Uh, he took a seat. C was ATE in the last row and ordered a drink, a bourbon, and seven note from a flight attendant. They all they know all this, but they have all this. So, with a crew of six and 36 passengers aboard, including Cooper, Flight 305 left Portland on schedule at 2 50 p.m. Shortly after takeoff, Cooper handed a note to flight attendant uh Shaffner, who was sitting in the jump seat at the rear of the airplane, uh directly behind Cooper, assuming the note was a lonely businessman's telephone. That's fucked up, Staffner dropped a note unopened into her purse. Cooper then leaned towards her and whispered, Miss, you better look at that note. I have a bomb. Chills. Chills, literally, chills. Try to tell her head thing, she got a head on.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Bitch, no, bitch, I'm about to blow this thing up. You're gonna be the first one. Goofy.
SPEAKER_00:Goofy. Oh, wait, I holler at your mid-ass phone too. Once your little dozy ass. I got plasma in my right now. So, talking about I got a bigger fresh frog. So Shaftner opened the note in neat all capital letters Cooper had written. Miss, I have a bomb in my briefcase. Don't be a hero. Walk away. Uh, I want you to sit by me. Shaftner returned the note to Cooper, sat down as he requested, and asked Quiarly to see the bomb. He opened his briefcase. Low Keisha already had it over with. She had a check. I respect her for that. She had a check. He opened a briefcase and he and she saw two rows of four red cylinders, which she assumed were dynamite. Attached to the cylinders were a wire and a large cylindrical battery which resembled a bomb. Cooper closed the briefcase and told Shafter his demands. She wrote a note with Cooper's demands, brought it to the cockpit, and informed the flight crew of the situation. Captain Scott directed her to remain in the cockpit for the remainder of the flight and take notes of events as they happened. He then relayed to Northwest flight operations in Minnesota the hijackers' demands. Cooper's request, 2,000 in the knapsack by 5 p.m. He wants two front parachutes, two back parachutes. He wants the money in the negotiable American currency. By requesting two sets of parachutes, Cooper implied he planned to take a hostage with him, thereby discouraging authorities from supplying non-functional equipment. Smart. Smart, smart, smart. He was really thinking ahead of the Shaffner in the cockpit, flight attendant Muklo sat next to Cooper to act as a liaison between him and the flight crew. Cooper then made additional demands upon landing at CTEC. Fuel trucks were to meet the plane, and all passengers were to remain seated while Muklo brought the money aboard. He said he would release the passengers after he had the money. The last items brought aboard were the four parachutes. Scott informed CTEC, uh air traffic control, to the situ of the situation, who contacted the Seattle Police Department and the federal FBI. The passengers were told their arrival in Seattle would be delayed because of a minor mechanical difficulty. But you better tell me you got a fucking bomb in the plane. Don't be telling me no minor mechanical difficulty. If I find out there was a bomb in the plane, I'm jumping out. Hey. Cooper was not nervous. He seemed rather nice and he was not cruel or nasty. So this man really, a professional, professional, if you will. While the airplane circled Seattle, Mark Lowe chatted that Cooper and uh uh with Cooper and asked why he chose Northwest Airlines to hijack. He laughed and replied, It's not because I have a grudge against your airlines, it's just because I have a grudge. Cold. This man is dropping cold lines left and right.
SPEAKER_05:One liners, really.
SPEAKER_00:One liners, for real. Uh Dan explained the flight simply suited his needs. He asked where she was from. She answered she was originally from Pennsylvania, but was living in Minneapolis at the time. Uh Cooper responded that Minnesota was a very nice country. Country country. He asked if she smoked and offered her a cigarette. She replied she had quit but accepted the cigarette. So FBI records know Cooper spoke briefly to an unidentified passenger while the airplane maintained its holding pattern over Seattle. In his interview with FBI agents, passenger George uh I'm just gonna call him George stated that he visited the restroom directly behind Cooper on several occasions. After one visit, George said the path to his seat was blocked by a passenger wearing a cowboy hat questioning Muglow about the supposed mechanical problem delaying them. George said Cooper was initially amused by the interaction, then became irritated and told the man to return to his seat. But the cowboy, the reminder, do what the hat with the cowboy hat, ignored Cooper and continued to question Muglow. George claimed he eventually persuaded the cow quote-unquote cowboy to return to his seat. Muglow's version of the interaction differed from uh from George's. She said a passenger approached her and asked for a sports magazine to read because he was bored. She and the passenger moved to an area directly behind Cooper where they both looked for magazines. The passenger took a copy of the New Yorker and returned to his seat. When Mokler returned to his seat with Cooper, said, If that is a Sky Marshal, I don't want any more of that. But she reassured him there were no sky marshals on the flight. Uh despite his brief interaction with Cooper, the cowboy was not interviewed by the FBI and was never identified. So it's just a little bit of uh uh what is it called? Things don't line up a little bit, but a little side tag. A little side, a little side thing of one person gave one story, she gave another story. So really not knowing. The FBI never interviewed, so we don't know we don't know what's going on. If it wasn't fire martial uh uh uh I'm about to say space marshal. If it was a space martial so the 200,000 ransom was received from Seattle First National Bank, 10,000 unmarked$20 bills, most of which had a serial numbers beginning with the letter L. Uh Seattle police obtained the two uh front parachutes uh from a local uh skydiver school and the two back parachutes from a local stump pilot. Around 524, uh Scott was informed the parachutes had been delivered to CTAC and notified Cooper they would be landing soon. At 546, uh Flight 305 landed at CTAG. With Cooper's permission, Scott parked the aircraft on a partially lit runway away from the main terminal. Uh Cooper demanded only one representative of the airline would push the plane with the parachutes and money, and the only entrance and exit would be through the aircraft's front door via mobile stairs. Northwest Seattle Operations Manager Al Lee was designated to be the courier to avoid the possibility Cooper might mistake Lee's airline uniform for law enforcement officer. He changed into civilian clothes for the task. Uh, with the passengers remaining seated, a ground crew attached a mobile stair uh per Cooper's directive. Mucklow exited the aircraft through the front door and retrieved the ransom money. Once she returned, she carried the money back past the seated passengers to Cooper in the last row. Cooper then agreed to release the passengers. As they debarked, Cooper. Uh Cooper inspected the money in an attempt to break the tension. Muklo jerkly asked Cooper if she could have some of it. Cooper readily agreed and handed her a packet of bills. But she immediately returned the money and explained according to accepting gratuities was against company policy. I don't give a fuck. You hijacking me, you threatened me with the fucking bone, one stack, bitch. I need me two stacks of damn money. Um she said Cooper had tried to tip her and the other two flight attendants earlier in the flight with money from his pocket, but they had each decline signing the policy. Um just what we do in that situation. You taking the money or you leave the money?
SPEAKER_05:At this point, I don't even have this job no more, bro. I done resigned I don't even work there no more. I'm part of the plan, really.
SPEAKER_00:I'm definitely taking one of them parachutes. Alright, so with the passenger safely debarked, uh only Cooper and the six crew members remained aboard. Uh, in accordance with Cooper's demands, Mughlow made three trips uh outside the aircraft to retrieve the parachutes, which she uh brought to him in the rear of the plane. While Muglow brought aboard the parachutes, Staffner asked Cooper if she could uh retrieve her purse stored in the compartment behind his seat. Cooper agreed and told her, I won't bite you. Flight attendant Hancock, then asked Cooper if the flight attendants could leave, to which she replied, Whatever you go, whatever you girls will like. Uh so Hancock and Shaffner debarked. Um when Mucklow brought the final parachute to Cooper, she gave him print instructions for use in the parachutes, but Cooper said he didn't need them. That's a boss ass shit right there. Don't even need it, bro. This this man is a professional.
SPEAKER_05:This man playing it cool the whole time. He's like, fuck.
SPEAKER_00:Why did I say that? Me when I would get the food that I would. I just take that. Um with the refueling process cost a delay. So a second truck and then a third were brought to the aircraft to complete the refueling. During the delay, Mark Low said Cooper complained. The money was delivered in the cloth bag instead of a knapsack as he had directed. And he now had to improvise a new way to transport the money. Using a pocket knife, he cut the canopy from one of the reserve parachutes and stuff some of the money into the empty parachute bag.
SPEAKER_05:Um he cut the good one.
SPEAKER_00:I had I had seen also that they supposedly they had gave him at faulty parachute on purpose somewhere, but I'm I couldn't find that right now. Um like an actual thing saying it, but I had it unless it's dead but I didn't realize it, but yeah, uh, I had heard that before. So a FFA F-88 official requested a face-to-face meeting with Cooper aboard the aircraft. Well, Cooper denied the request. See, I go brother. I'm not playing, man. You see me strapped, you asking all these dumbass questions. Right. I'll blow this whole thing to smell the ring. You know what I only care about them. Boom. Cooper became impatient saying, This shouldn't take so long, and let's get this show on the road. He then gave the cockpit crew his flight plan and directives. It's southeast course towards Mexico City at the minimum airspeed possible without stalling the aircraft. Cooper also specified the landing gear must remain deployed, the wing flaps must be lowered 15 degrees, and the cabin must remain unpressurized. This man is a professional. This ain't his first time doing this. First officer. It has a C and a Z. An A and a K at the end. My mouth can't do that. So I'm just gonna call on. First Officer informed Cooper that the configuration limited the aircraft's range to about 1,000 miles. So a second refueling would be necessary before entering Mexico. Cooper and the crew discussions up uh discussed options and agreed on Reno Tahoe International Airport as a refueling stop. Cooper further directed the aircraft to take off with the rear exit door open and its air air stair extended. Northwest officials objected for reasons of safety, but Cooper counted by saying, It can be done, so do it. But these one liners be going crazy, bro. But then but then did not insist and said he would lower the staircase once they were airborne. Cooper demanded Mukloe remain aboard to assist the operation. So around 7 40 p.m., flight 305 took off with only Cooper Muglow Scott Ratask and Flight uh Flight Engineer Anderson aborden. So two by this time, two F uh 106 fighters from uh McCorre Air Force Base and a Lockheed T-33 trainer diverted from an unrelated Air National Guard mission, followed a 727, all three Jets were maintained as flight patterns to stay behind the slow-moving 727. And out of Cooper's view. My fault. After takeoff, Cooper told Mugglo to lower their uh their staircase. She told him that the flight crews uh she feared being sucked out of the aircraft. The flight crew suggested she come to the cockpit and retrieve the emergency robe, which she could tie herself to a seat. Cooper rejected the suggestion, stating he did not want her going up front or the flight crew coming back to the cabin. She continued to express her fear to him and asked him to cut some cord from one of the parachutes to create a safety line for her. He said he will lower the stairs case himself. Real man right there. He said, you know what, I'll do this myself. Um he instructed her to go to the cockpit, close the current uh partition between the coach and the first class sections, and now return. Before she left, Michael uh beg Cooper, please, please take the bomb with you. Cooper responded that he would either restarm it or take it with him. As she walked to the cockpit and returned to close the current partition, she saw Cooper standing in the aisle trying what appeared to be the money, oh, tying what appeared to be the money bag around his waist. From takeoff to when Muklo entered the cockpit, four to five minutes have uh elapsed.
SPEAKER_05:Now that started getting crazy. I'm over here like, damn, what's about to happen next?
SPEAKER_00:Almost to them, almost to them. My bad, my bad. No, you're good. Um to when Muklo entered the cockpit. Four to five minutes have elapsed for the rest of the flight to Reno. Mukla remained in the cockpit and was the last person to see Cooper around 8 p.m. A cockpit warning light flash indicated the staircase had been deployed. Scar used the place aircomb to ask Cooper if he needed assistance, but Cooper's last message was a one-word reply. No. Really, really, this man's just a professional, bro. Good luck, suckers. I would have said some crazy shit. I feel I would have said some crazy shit and then jumped off, died instantly. The crew's ears popped from the drop in the air pressure from the stairs being opened. At approximately 8 13, the aircraft's tail section suddenly pitched upward, forcing the pilots to trim and return the aircraft to level flight. In his interview with the FBI, uh Radasak said the sudden upward pitch occurred while the flight was near the suburbs north of Portland. With the cabin door open and the staircase deployed, the flight crew remained in the cockpit, unsure if Cooper was still aboard. Mokolo used the intercon to horn Cooper they were approaching Reno and that he needed to raise the stairs so the airplane could land safely. She repeated her request as the pilots made the final approach to the land, but neither Mokolo nor the flight crew received a reply from Cooper. At 11.02 p.m. with the staircase still deployed, Flight 305 landed at the Reno Tahoe International Airport. FBI agents, state troopers, sheriff deputies, and Reno police established a perimeter around the aircraft, but fearing the hijack and the bomb was still on aboard did not approach the plane. Scott searched the cabin, confirmed Cooper was no longer aboard, and after 30 minute search, an FBI bomb squad declared the cabin safe.
SPEAKER_05:Damn.
SPEAKER_00:And that is what happened on flight 305.
SPEAKER_05:That's what happened with Mr.
SPEAKER_03:Dan Cooper. Mr. Dan Cooper. The man who got away. The man who got away. Or so they say. What do you mean? So they say.
unknown:Go ahead.
SPEAKER_05:Go ahead, what you got?
SPEAKER_00:What you got, bro? That's what you got. Oh, yeah, that huh? That was it. Yeah, that was it. That's it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:You have no other facts then? No. Like you didn't do none of the things.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, the other one then.
SPEAKER_05:So people were saying, like. Obviously, some people say he died. Some people are claiming he died when he jumped out the plane. Other people saying he lived. But before we get into that, he he's famous because he's like the first. Well, not first. He's like the only person to ever pull off like a plane heist like that. Like I think that's the only one that's been until this next Wednesday. I think he's known as the first and only.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, where's that? I'd had it right here. Hold on, sorry.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. His hijacking is the only unsolved skyjacking in commercial aviation history in the US where the criminal vanished completely. Alright. So another couple fun facts about him, real quick, was um obviously the one I said where people say DB Cooper, but it's not DB Cooper, it's Dan Cooper. But people say DB Cooper because some journalist, the reporter said DB Cooper, and they just ran with it. So that's why a lot of people then say D. Cooper. It sounds better, really, more catchy. Right, it does. Another crazy thing was uh Cooper smoked Benson and Hedges Reds, okay, cigarettes, which are rare and expensive at the time. Oh that just goes to shows that maybe he was like a professional some person, like someone that liked to uphold his image and everything.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. I mean, clearly people remember how he was dressed. I mean, right?
SPEAKER_05:So I mean he could have really just pulled out the Marlboro six, the the what you call the red, the long ones, the hundreds.
SPEAKER_00:The hundreds.
SPEAKER_05:Right? He could have just one right there. Um, another couple things that people were saying was uh well let's just get into what happened. Like, all right, so they said like after he jumped out the plane, people obviously saying like he went in the woods and he went into hiding. Or some people claim that they saw a person coming out of a plane parachuting and that he got in a getaway vehicle. Somebody was waiting for him in there. I heard that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I've heard that too.
SPEAKER_05:Alright. Another theory is obviously he landed in the trees and he just escaped in the forest. But people were saying no because you know they said the forest was just like a really dense area and it was like really bad at the time. Apparently, there was like a snowstorm or something that happened during that time.
SPEAKER_00:During that time, yep.
SPEAKER_05:So, because of the snowstorm, they were saying like that's what helped him get away as well.
SPEAKER_00:Because, you know, the all his tracks, his tracks were covered, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So there was like snow and everything, so they really couldn't see his tracks because his tracks would go away eventually.
SPEAKER_00:Low-key. And if I was a professional, I mean they say he was familiar, he's he like he knew where he was at. I mean that's if I if I if I was D B Cooper, that's what I'd do.
SPEAKER_05:But again, like I said, due to like the weather and everything, that's where people tend to say he didn't survive because one, the weather was bad.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_05:Two, his his parachute, how do you know he got the right parachute and not a bad parachute? But they said he did inspect the parachute. Like he inspected all the parachutes or whatever, and he said that they were good, I think, or whatever. And another crazy thing that people also believe was that he was like probably like an ex-military person. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Or like past, or he had like he had military training, yeah, because apparently just civilians can't use parachutes just off the rip. I mean, I could if I was in that situation, but um apparently, like, it's you can't just put it on parachute and just jump off and you know know how to control it.
SPEAKER_05:So that's why they were saying he probably had military or aviation experience. They say he was probably like a paratrooper since he knew a lot about the aircraft. He was like really calm about it. He knew what he needed and what he wanted. And like you said, he knew about landing, he knew about the plane. Um, that plane specifically being okay to open up and having the staircase.
SPEAKER_03:He told him what degree he wanted the the flaps to be at and everything, but that's so he knew he knew what he was talking about, he had the knowledge of what to do, and we all know you can do anything with knowledge.
SPEAKER_05:You know what's better than all these cars in my garage? These books on my stud on my bookcase. Knowledge. All right, so um a little crazy thing about the money, also, they said that there was like five thousand eight hundred dollars that came flowing down the river. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So kid actually came along and actually found the money.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But you know what's crazy is like if you find the money and you end up like taking it and spending it, we found DV Cooper, we found Daniel Cooper. Oh yeah. They take the whole little kid. He used some kind of uh syringe, some type of chemical to make himself young. But he found him though.
SPEAKER_00:For all we know, that's probably what he did.
SPEAKER_05:For all we know, for all we know.
SPEAKER_04:Um they did say he was like uh they gave like details about like what the FBI claims his height and everything was.
SPEAKER_05:Because the FBI claimed he was like uh about 5'10 to 6 foot tall. They said um probably 170 to 180 pounds. Okay. Uh, and like you said, he was like 40 years old, or he appeared to be, but they said he was well groomed and wore a business suit. Um, I'm like kind of jumping all over the place, but before anything, the money was$200,000 and it was in$20 bills. And that equivalents to like$1.00 million in today's time. He really pulled in ahead, just enough for bills with the inflation calculator. It's really thinking ahead, really.
SPEAKER_00:Really?
SPEAKER_05:And um what else was there?
SPEAKER_00:That's how you make less money, more money, right there. Imagine he stole 200,000.
SPEAKER_05:Walked away one point something. I can't even think of a good comeback.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05:They say money doesn't grow on trees, but it grows when it's just there. Interest. And what was he interested in? Money. Stay with it.
SPEAKER_00:Stay with me. Stay with me, class. Oh my god. See, all he had to do is put that in the paint, let it sit. But it may be in there right now.
SPEAKER_05:All right. Um, what else was there? Um there's just like a bunch. So like the FBI like investigated for a really long ass time. They investigated from like 1971 to like two 2016. Literally a year after we graduated, they're like, you know what? We we done. We're not looking no more. We're done with this. We can't find this man. This man did.
SPEAKER_00:That was a whole X-File's really though.
SPEAKER_05:Right. But over the years, the FBI collected thousands of tips, letters, suspect, suspect profiles, but they never found who Cooper was. Apparently, apparently, I didn't know this. But apparently, like we said, the FBI was getting letters, and there was a couple letters that actually seemed legit because um it talked about certain things that only Oh, that only they would know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Hold on, where's it at?
SPEAKER_05:Uh fuck. Hold on. Let me look at my notes. Recipients were the FBI and local newspaper. Uh, some of the letters like hinted at like the money being buried or like escape points or whatever. One letter mentioned a river bank near Vancouver, Washington, aligning with the money that was discovered in 1980 by the boy. Uh, some letters use aviation terminology accurately, like referencing flaps, airspeeds, or jump procedures. Um, some letters included like accurate aviation or procedural information. Um this is pretty much like saying, like, like I said, people were just sending in a bunch of letters or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:But but it had like some of the like the correct terminology and everything you would use, right?
SPEAKER_05:So apparently, like in 1972, the police department had received a letter claiming to be Cooper, which included like exact details about the rear air stair exit and then or and the order in which the passengers were released. Oh, okay. They described like the parachute system accurately, like the two main and two reserve. Um it was it's it's regarded as like a good piece of evidence because at the time the police are released. They hadn't released no. It wasn't public knowledge. So the fact that the person knew this, they're like, this must be him writing in these letters.
SPEAKER_00:That one, I I remember that one, and I I felt like that that couldn't, that wasn't, I feel like that was somebody. Maybe it was somebody from the inside that knew about that. So I was like, it's too professional. This man knows what he's doing to try to jeopardize his freedom over just saying that that letter, you know.
SPEAKER_05:So people they say it's plausible, but the government said, I mean, the FBI said um handwriting analysis, like concluded it was like inconclusive.
SPEAKER_00:Because the note that he the note that he did leave, it was just all capital, all capital letters, though.
SPEAKER_05:That's why they're saying it wasn't like conclusive to what he had written. Obviously, they had gotten a bunch of letters that were like a bunch of just hoaxes and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, but people, oh my, I don't know why people love doing that, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Right, that's what we were talking about the last episode.
SPEAKER_00:Bro, I don't know why the fuck they love doing that, bro.
SPEAKER_05:Like, I know who he was, my grandpa, and then he showed up and he bought a new Cadillac. Shut up.
SPEAKER_03:Go to sleep, go back upstairs, close your room, close your room, not your door. Don't ever come back down here. Put the chain on.
unknown:Sorry.
SPEAKER_05:Go to the corner. Sorry, we always keep them locked up in the room when guests come on. All right, no, but back to like the sandstorms theory. So, like the sandstorm theory of like the sandstorm 1971 was that um they said it was cold and rainy with temperature around 40 Fahrenheit or like four to five degrees Celsius. Oh, okay, okay. There was fog and wind, and some sources mentioned early snow in the higher elevations of the Cascade foothills.
SPEAKER_00:Oh shit, okay. But that ain't enough for DB Cooper. That ain't enough for DB Cooper.
SPEAKER_05:Right. So they said that he probably like landed in because there was like a bunch of cabins scattered out, but nobody like lived in the cabin. Oh, they were just there, that they were I mean, they probably do, but it was like under the cabin type thing, probably, or some shit like that.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Not a permanent living there type of thing, okay.
SPEAKER_05:So they said he probably like went inside those cabins to like live in the like just warm up or survive a little bit, type shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_05:That was like some of those um conspiracies or theories or whatever. Um, what else do I got? There was a bunch more. Hmm. Sorry, I wish I had my thing like better laid out, my notes and everything, but I got one in my head, but I won't say it just in case you got it.
SPEAKER_00:Go ahead, say it. Oh, I remember there was this apparently uh this dude, this dude ended up, in a sense, telling the police that his dad had confessed to him being the DB Cooper. Um because he was passing away, he was dying. Like it was near 2000, uh 2012, something like that. So the dude, the the the old man was like, he was dying because he got cashed or some shit like that. And on his deathpad, he told he's told his son that he was the he he was uh DB Cooper. And but and then he died, so they the FBI couldn't even investigate into it or something, like see if he really was or um That man was just chasing clout. Don't believe he was just saying, bro, I ain't gonna lie. I'm DB Cooper. I was gonna say, if I was on my death bed, and I know there was some crazy cat.
SPEAKER_05:That's pretty much that's pretty much like all I got though, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Like they just saying like jump out it's just yeah, it's just none of the none of like the theories were like necessarily conclusive to to one answer or another, because nobody really knows. No, nobody really knows what what happened to that man.
SPEAKER_05:They just say he disappeared, he disappeared, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that was it.
SPEAKER_05:Like, that's pretty much it. That's all he disappeared, he disappeared. He literally got away with that. Like, obviously, there's people that uh uh are saying, like, because you know, people report to the FBI, this man he came across he came across a lot of money, he bought a brand new car, and he don't got no money. I don't know where he got that money from, but he got new new vehicle and everything.
SPEAKER_00:That's why I'm gonna become rich, bro. Because I know more than become rich, bro. So I'm gonna call police humble.
SPEAKER_05:He's selling drugs.
SPEAKER_00:He's selling drugs, or like he he just stole, he just hijacked the place, some shit like that.
SPEAKER_05:He did Cooper. Dare you make these accusations? I'm gonna have you know I drive a good business here. 25 cents a blowjob, and I'll be damned if these thousand dollars that I just made be thrown at me.
SPEAKER_00:I got a thousand dollars and thirty-five cents. I don't know where that extra 10 cents came from. That was a tip.
SPEAKER_06:He lost the jet.
SPEAKER_03:And there's a column. But um, I don't know. I mean, and do you think he survived then? What do you think? You think he survived? I ain't gonna lie. He had everything calculated, bro.
SPEAKER_00:There's not a lot of times I'm gonna root for the bad guy. But this is one of them times he ain't hurt nobody. He ain't, he, he ain't he wasted the time on a couple people, but let's be honest. I don't want to be done, but I'm just playing. But you know, it wasn't it wasn't a violent crime, you know, it was a well-thought out plan, and he got away with it. He got away with it, and he got away with it. So I hope he did make it a lot. I hope he enjoyed that money. I hope I hope he'll slide me a cool 50 bands in today's money.
SPEAKER_06:And today's money.
SPEAKER_00:So 50 bands. Um yeah, I I just I no pop but can he still be alive for your tank leave? He was 40-ish around that time. Is it what 20 years since then?
SPEAKER_05:1971.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, 1971, never mind. It's been 40-ish. Nah, he's gone.
SPEAKER_05:He old.
SPEAKER_00:He either old as shit or he's gone. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:No, he's old, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so that's why that dude was saying, yeah, that's why that dude was saying. Yeah, he was 40 in 1971.
SPEAKER_05:Oh no, he's gone, bro. 90 years old, ain't no way, bro. Ain't no way.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, look, I I know some 90 year olds that smoke a pack a day. So, maybe, nah, bruh. Fuck it. Nah, no, no good man like that lives that long, bro. No need to. No need to. No hero, no hero lives that hero. No hero lives that long, bro. Because everybody knows you either die here. Or lit some shit like that.
SPEAKER_05:Or live long enough to steal a plane.
SPEAKER_03:To still a plane.
SPEAKER_05:To hijack a plane. To hijack a plane.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. There you go. There you go. But no, uh, I really do hope. I really do hope he actually made it out. It's it gives me motivation, you know. It gives me it gives me hope that I too that I too will be able to achieve some mastermind plan like this. Well, I told you, but I was walking to that Wolfswagger about that first camera I seen in my mind. Yep. I got to sell the plane.
SPEAKER_06:Freaking airport bars made from here.
SPEAKER_00:Just for this Wolfswagger, right? Open up the bank here. Sigga like$35.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh.
SPEAKER_05:What's it gonna say? Um the fuck, what's it gonna say? Damn it.
SPEAKER_00:On how you felt about it? Like if you can survive.
SPEAKER_05:I'm gonna wrap it up real quick. I feel like he probably did survive. I'm more believable, like I believe it more, because he was so calculated that I believe he would have recon the area or some shit beforehand. Generally speaking, maybe. Yeah. Like maybe use some type of landmark or something. It's like, you know what?
SPEAKER_00:Or like he knew he was supposed to get one of those houses and he had equipment, or maybe, you know, that was that's that was his meeting point. Something. Yeah, but I I believe it. Like, I don't think the last few couple steps, I don't feel like he didn't plan them out. I feel like everything was. Clearly everything was calculated all the way through. So yeah, I I host her though. I host that shit, like I said. But like like that dude, I mean, like that dude on his deathbed that was confessing to him being DB Cooper. I don't know. It could have been, it couldn't, I don't know, but um I don't know. Hopefully he's had a good life, made it out. You know, shit, shit. When your thousand 1971, that boy was a millionaire, if you will.
SPEAKER_05:He was wrenched loaded, bro. He was loaded. But um, I don't know. Y'all let us know what y'all think. Let us know if y'all have any information about it, or let us know if y'all uncle was uh Dan Dan Cooper.
SPEAKER_03:Dan Cooper, let us know. Or if your grandma or grandpa knew somebody, like, yeah. Your grandma probably got fucked with that Cooper.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe that old ladies, but I remember. I remember it was a young man. I used to let him caress my nipples. And he used to tell me he was Dan Cooper.
SPEAKER_03:Grandma! Let's see. Grandma, shut the fuck up, grandma.
SPEAKER_05:If they it was 1971, so let's just say someone was 20 years old at the time. 1971 to today's time. What does that make them?
SPEAKER_00:At that time, 20 years old. Right now it'd be like around 40-ish.
unknown:40-ish?
SPEAKER_00:1971, around 40-ish, 50-ish?
SPEAKER_05:To today's time.
SPEAKER_00:To today's time, right? Well, I got you, I got you.
SPEAKER_05:20.
SPEAKER_00:20, 25, minus. We don't do math in public. 1971. 54.
SPEAKER_03:I was close. I was halfway there, really. I was. I was 54?
SPEAKER_00:54.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, okay. That'd be like. So I was just thinking, like, if somebody was like, I don't know. Like alive or whatever at the time. Like, what age range would be more like likely to still be somewhat like alive or like sane at the time to like. Because you know, once you get to a certain age, you're like you start.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:It's like nothing but like 70 year olds, 80 year olds were alive at the time. Like, I remember when this happened. No, you don't. Take your meds, go to sleep, and stop shitting on the floor.
SPEAKER_03:Go to sleep. We got bingo tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00:Shit and your diaper, man.
SPEAKER_03:Stop taking that shit off. No, I don't know what a freak off is. Get away from me.
SPEAKER_00:All the people be a little they'd be free, man. I'd tell you.
SPEAKER_05:Right. But I don't know. Like, like I said, y'all let us know what y'all think. Let us know if y'all have any information we might have missed. Let us know what. Let us know if y'all have any topics for us to talk about or something that y'all want us to. Anything else y'all want us to discuss? Like, I don't know. The political climate of something. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:The social economic stand of rats.
SPEAKER_05:The hierarchy among the rats or the rat people.
SPEAKER_00:The rat colony. Mmm. The rat pyre.
SPEAKER_05:What is a rat?
SPEAKER_00:What it? What is a rat?
SPEAKER_05:Sometimes for the big question, can you eat a rat?
SPEAKER_00:Can a rat eat you or not?
SPEAKER_03:Eat a but uh like I said, y'all let us know what y'all think.
SPEAKER_05:We appreciate y'all uh coming back and listening to the episodes. Whenever I do end up uploading this episode, again, please forgive me. I'll be better. Look, if y'all really want the episodes of stuff to come out, donate. Donate some money. Don't dead ass. Dead ass. Get this man Yayo a PC. And I'll just pass the torch to him. Yayo, you do this. Donate.
SPEAKER_00:I at least. Let me tell you, well, my I at least need$200,000.
SPEAKER_03:And I want in a bag. And I want six parachutes and I need a plane to go from here all the way to all the way to Mexico to Japan.
SPEAKER_00:Because when I get those$200,000 cash. I ain't gonna say I'm gonna run off with it.
SPEAKER_05:But uh again, big shout out to everybody that tunes in. You know, we appreciate the love and support y'all get us. Give us, sorry, not get us. Well, get us like from sharing and everything. Yep. But um thank y'all so much for always tuning in. Thank y'all for always listening. Thank you for just being there, I guess, for allowing us to try and entertain y'all with this small time that we take, even though it's like two hours of time that we take. It's small two hours, really. But again, shout out to y'all, you know, we really much appreciate it. We love y'all so much. Shout out to my cousin Pepe. I'm sorry. I know you were looking forward to the episode. I'm sorry I didn't get it out. Shout out to my girlfriend, you know. Hopefully you catch up to this episode that we can laugh about it when you I heard you say this and that, and I thought it was funny.
SPEAKER_03:I thought I thought it was funny too. I thought it was funny hilarious. That's why I fucking laugh. No, but what you got, bro?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, your shout out, Sammy. Shout out to fam. Oh that's it really. That's it. That's it, really.
SPEAKER_05:All right, I guess we'll catch you on the next episode. So peace. Peace.
