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EP 47- Your Memories Aren't Wrong - You're Just From Another Timeline
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Prepare for a journey into the darkest corners of folklore and the most puzzling aspects of human memory as we present a three-part exploration of entities that defy explanation and memories that might not be as reliable as you think.
We begin with a deep dive into skinwalkers – malevolent shapeshifting entities from Navajo culture who gain their powers through the most taboo acts imaginable. These aren't your typical werewolves; they're something far more sinister with abilities to mimic voices, move faster than vehicles, and potentially replace the people you love. We share bone-chilling encounters from the American Southwest and explore how people have supposedly protected themselves from these supernatural predators.
Next, we uncover the legend of La Mano Peluda (The Hairy Hand), a disembodied hairy hand with long claws that emerges from under beds or through walls to terrorize children. Dating back to the Spanish Inquisition, this Latin American folktale has kept generations of children obediently in their beds at night – and for good reason, as our collection of firsthand accounts will reveal.
Finally, we tackle the mind-bending phenomenon known as the Mandela Effect – those collective false memories that have millions questioning their reality. From Pikachu's tail to the Monopoly man's monocle, C-3PO's silver leg to the Fruit of the Loom cornucopia, we examine these shared misrememberings and explore theories ranging from simple memory confabulation to quantum immortality and parallel universe bleed-through.
Between fits of laughter and genuine moments of existential crisis, we transform these unsettling topics into a thought-provoking conversation about perception, memory, and the unexplained mysteries that continue to captivate our imagination. Whether you're a skeptic, a believer, or somewhere in between, this episode will have you questioning what you know – or think you know – about reality itself.
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Oh, you think darkness is your ally. You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it.
Speaker 2:Molded by it.
Speaker 1:I see death. Welcome to the Cold Family. It's your co-host, yaya, here, my boy.
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Speaker 2:Tati, who is it, tati, the influencer girl?
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Speaker 2:Her podcast is pretty good though.
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Speaker 2:I like her stuff.
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Speaker 2:We got to stand up and protect ourselves from these evil people.
Speaker 1:that what's that those people.
Speaker 2:Damn people. Nah, bro, that shit, they really do be gaslighting you. No, no I ain't never done that, no, no, no, it wasn't. It's because you were so long, it's so long ago. You're thinking you'll be watching too much TV.
Speaker 1:Here's what that. That's not even what I have. Oh, there's not. Oh, there's this one, mama. Okay, but tell me what you did.
Speaker 2:I was a kid, it's like I walked. Tell them what you did, though Tell them what you did. Tell them the whole story. I didn't even hit you that bad. Oh yeah, why do I have four fingers?
Speaker 1:Bro, that's the biggest thing we used to tell my mom. Bro, that's the biggest thing I remember. When you broke that child on my back, she's like if I actually were to do that, you wouldn't turn out like you did. I was like God damn, you wouldn't be. Like goddamn, you would be doing everything you want. You'd be doing whatever you want, man. They just be zero accountability, bro. Zero accountability Just gaslighting you the whole way.
Speaker 2:Right, talking about some character development Right Low key when they owe this shit. Character development my ass Poe Bitch.
Speaker 1:It's like that pose I seen. I ain't going to ever let my mama stay at a. What is it called Like?
Speaker 2:a, not retirement home.
Speaker 1:Nursing home. Nursing home. She going to live with my sister.
Speaker 2:No bro, let my mama be in a nursing home. I'm going to pull up, cause havoc. Hey, my mama said she let you borrow that 20. Talk to an Alzheimer's person that don't remember shit. She's going to need that 20. I'm busting them kneecaps in my boy. That razzes every old person.
Speaker 1:I see he pulls up, and then what? It's okay, I can't even feel it no more.
Speaker 2:Bro, I remember one time Real quick story time Real quick story time Go ahead. One time it was like Christmas time Real quick story time Go ahead. One time it was like Christmas time. Me and my girlfriend were going to the nursing homes to drop off gifts for the old people or whatever for. Christmas, oh, y'all did that. Yeah, we did it. Holy shit, it was like a church thing, but me and her were the only ones that pulled up, and the church people were there, but they ended up disappearing.
Speaker 1:So we're like bruh, so it was just her and me, pretty much like handing out all the stuff, just the volunteers doing it.
Speaker 2:We were the only volunteers like we. We weren't even supposed to be there, but we're like oh, we wanted to help, or whatever. So we were told where to be, at what time to be there, and we were there. Only people that showed up. We had, like, uh, santa claus, hats on what they said about the rest of y'all.
Speaker 1:What they say about the rest of y'all. What they say about the rest of y'all. What you mean, everybody else that didn't go.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know. It's supposed to be a lot of people, but nobody showed up.
Speaker 1:It's supposed to be the time of giving when y'all.
Speaker 2:Right where y'all is, where y'all was, and, bro, that shit was crazy. Bro. To all the people that work with the people in the nursing homes, my hat goes off to you. You know y'all got to put up with so much, but also feel for the old people because you know they can't move. They can't function like they used to. You got to have patience, bro. Yep yep, and you're going to see a lot of shit bro Yep literally Literally. I saw an old lady dragging her feet and her titties bro oh shit.
Speaker 2:Bro, that shit was insane. No, I'm just joking. Oh, so we were dropping off the gifts, you know, you know my girlfriend. She got sent off to one area to go drop stuff off, like socks, just essentials, like toothpaste, deodorant.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, Just like small little gifts or whatever that people donated from the church. Me, I'm over in the trenches, bro. For me I feel like her experience was like sunshine and rainbows. She met like a couple and then she got some chocolate from them or some shit like that. Me, bro, I'm over, I'm with, like I'm looking for this one lady, like some old lady or whatever. I'm in a room checking. I'm like, oh, oh, there's nobody here. Then, um, you know, the people that are working there were like walking around, like where is she at?
Speaker 2:and they're like she was in the bathroom. She's like I'm in here, I turn around, I'm like bro, butt ass naked. I'm like you know damn way I'm seeing all this right now. And she was like we told you to call us if you need any help. She was like I thought I could do it that's gonna be me, man.
Speaker 2:I shouldn't be in here. So I'm sitting here with her gift. I'm like, what should I do? What do I do? I just put her on her bed. She ain't even gonna know what it is, and you know, she helped her get up and cleaned her, whatever. And uh, you know, I'm like, all right, I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of here. And then, uh, I'm like, let me go give the next person the gift. I'm looking, I can't remember where I needed to go.
Speaker 2:I went back down the hallway and then, um, I ended up having to go back in that lady's room because I think they shared rooms, or some shit like that, with another person. So I was like, and since I didn't know the layout, I was like, okay, I don't think I've been in here yet and I go in there. Bro, tell me why. The old lady's still in the bathroom again. But, thank you, she got back in the bathroom. She's like I need some, need some help. I'm like, man, I don't do this. Man, that's not me, you need help from someone else, so they come in here.
Speaker 2:I'm like no bro, I don't work here. I was here for presents I do not work here and then it was just like a bunch of crazy stuff, bro. I was like having to deal with that. I'm finishing up my rounds like giving people their gifts. You know they're saying thank you. You know, that's pretty much it. They literally just took it from me, said thank you. I'm like all right, bro, merry christmas to you too I guess that's that shit back.
Speaker 1:Merry christmas to you too, I guess. Serve that shit, motherfucker and uh what's that? The one over here by, uh, by the park. Uh, it wasn't. No, no, no it was.
Speaker 2:It was close by but it wasn't there and what happened? And then I told my girlfriend about it. I found her inside a room and she was talking to the couple still, and they gave her chocolates and talking about, I guess, maybe their love story or something like that. Me, I'm over it, but I felt like sweat coming on my face. I felt like I had like freaking, all this freaking. You feel like you're white. Yeah, I feel like I just escaped battle or something bro I felt like I had all these battle scars on me and everything.
Speaker 2:They put you in the dark sector of the shirt ripped freaking clothes barely hanging on. Bro, I'm like bleeding, bleeding. I was like we finished our rounds. The lady said we could leave and she's over, okay, and then she's like finishing up the story. I'm like you won't. You won't believe how, what all happened to me.
Speaker 1:I saw some old party bro, that shit was.
Speaker 2:I can't remember what else I saw, bro nah, I believe it, bro.
Speaker 1:I know because I had. I had a friend that used to work for a nursing home and stuff like that and she said it's a no-man's land, right.
Speaker 2:It's a no-man's land.
Speaker 1:It's lawless. It's a lawless place. They know people be fucking too bro.
Speaker 2:Right, Right, oh freaks bro.
Speaker 1:For real bro.
Speaker 2:Walk in there with they Shmeet out, damn bro.
Speaker 1:That shit is stinking, this bitch.
Speaker 2:That shit smell like Shaggy carpet in here. Bro, that shit stink, she smell like garlic.
Speaker 1:She smell like mildew, bro.
Speaker 2:Fucking mothballs Mothballs. That shit smell dusty. This bitch Shit smell like old dentures. That shit smell dusty. This bitch Shit smell like Old dentures. That shit smell like Old library books Smell like ass. That shit Picks smell like Library books, bro, I was like Bro nah. Maybe I'm not meant For this type of charity. Let me go to the dogs next year who said yeah.
Speaker 1:I just donated my dollar, bro. I was like, bro, nah, maybe I'm not meant for this type of charity. Let me go to the dogs next year. Yeah, I just donated my dollar at Fula. I just round up next time, fuck it.
Speaker 2:I did my dues. I did my dues. I'm guaranteed to go into heaven now. I bought my way into heaven, bro, got generational karma. That bought my way into heaven Broke out generational karma. That shit was intense bro.
Speaker 1:He could be evil for the rest of his life. Still go to heaven.
Speaker 2:On some fallout shit bro. No cap bro, for real.
Speaker 1:Jesus bro, At least you did it, though.
Speaker 2:Have you ever had anything like that happen to you?
Speaker 1:Like help. No, I don't help.
Speaker 2:Never.
Speaker 1:You never take care of like an old person, or oh no, not really. Um, I I guess the closest thing, just when I, when I'm at work and like I'm working for like an old old person and he's like, can you help me over here? Like and I'm like, yeah, fuck it. Like even though I'm not supposed to do it, or like not, uh, pick a bait to flim, but yeah, I guess that's as far. That's as far as I've done anything.
Speaker 1:Apart from that it's just when we were little we were doing that Christmas Carol thing. We went to that nursing home. Oh shit, that's about it. I remember that that's as far, but I really not, nah. Nah, I got to get myself some good coming. I need to stock up on that bro.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, bro. This Christmas send you right down the road for us, we'll sign up.
Speaker 1:Good, we'll record our whole entire experience. Good, I'll round up at Food Lion. Bro, I'll be rounding up bro.
Speaker 2:We got to put that GoPro to use, bro. You never use it. You're right. What you mean? I don't use it. What you mean? That?
Speaker 1:video be going crazy. Fuck that I be sitting in my bed watching that shit on the big TV. Yeah, I did that. Yeah, yeah, I did that.
Speaker 2:For every $5 sent to my cash app. I'll link you all these videos.
Speaker 1:Hey, before I get it, it was cold in there. My house is cold.
Speaker 2:I ain't got no heat, it's cold.
Speaker 1:I didn't have my socks on.
Speaker 2:It's just me slipping around here. How was your week then, bro? Let's just go ahead and my week is pretty good.
Speaker 1:I would like to say that the record show I believe I redeemed myself on the cookout. Oh yeah, that's right. Who forgot, who forgot we?
Speaker 2:had a what you talking about who forgot. That party was crazy. Right, I got faded bro, the lights were going.
Speaker 1:The drinks were flowing Low key y'all Go ahead, go ahead and tell him. Go ahead, and tell him Go ahead, go ahead and tell him about it. Yayo's Bar and Grill, all inclusive.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and tell him what you call that drink, though Uh, I call that mango passion, passion, mango passion. Mango passion.
Speaker 1:Cause, really, really, it's mango and I put passion into it, you feel me who said passionate?
Speaker 2:He literally just threw everything into a cup. Everything fell out. He didn't have the mix, he just twirled his finger around there, stuck his finger in his mouth. After he twirled his finger in my drink. Get the ice mixed up. No, bro, that drink was good. All right, I give it to you For somebody that hasn't grilled like that. Right For somebody that doesn't, that hasn't grilled like that, right Hasn't grilled.
Speaker 1:I haven't grilled, catered, what is it? I haven't hosted? I really haven't. Oh yeah, hosted, cause the first time. The first time, I feel like I fucked it up a little bit Cause I ain't timing correctly, but the second time, the second time I was ready this time Alright that shit went crazy. I had the drinks ready. I was making Mixed drinks. I gave him the recipe.
Speaker 2:That's how it's done. In case they want to do, that's your recipe.
Speaker 1:Instead of ice, y'all get frozen fruits, preferably mango and pineapple. Use that as your ice cubes and then you throw some Really whatever tequila you want, really Just put that in there and throw some mango. What? Kind of tequila Did you use for your Patron? Yeah, I believe, patron.
Speaker 2:Onyeka, I believe, patron Onyeka yeah.
Speaker 1:Just Just Shot or two shots in there. Really just eyeball. If you're a real one like me, you just eyeball that shit Really.
Speaker 2:It depends on how strong you want the person wants it really.
Speaker 1:Were they too strong, were they Were they good.
Speaker 2:Them things Were just right bro, cause I was trying not.
Speaker 1:So you can't taste the alcohol.
Speaker 2:That was my goal.
Speaker 1:It's. What is that's it, that's it. You get that simply. What is it? Simply made, simply made mango. I didn't even know they had mango, but I ain't either Simply made mango. That's the best one, cause I tried Hugo Mex. I ain't like Hugo Mex. It's better with that one. But yeah, y'all give it a try. Let me know which. I think Everybody got fucked up. Everybody was fucked up.
Speaker 2:Right, even the dogs, the dogs were knocked out.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they did knock out.
Speaker 2:They were knocked out, bro. Now them drinks is really good. If y'all want to try some good drinks, try that drink.
Speaker 1:I just invented it off the top, that shit was good.
Speaker 2:That shit was really good. And then the meat. I liked the meat a whole lot, bro, it was good. I know you the cut yeah but that's just.
Speaker 1:That's just because my because I don't be liking the fatty, but I think next time I'm gonna get the same one, but just marinate it the night before, so I'm gonna be more prepared this time. Yeah, I just want to see what it would it uh-huh what it would it turn out to be I'm about to be super prepared.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and make the boston butt bro go. Who tried? No, I'm about to. I'm about to get his wings, he about to get his grill ring.
Speaker 1:Gotta take it easy. One more, bro. If I can master that meat to taste good the way I want it, I'll do Boston butt after that one. It's not that hard bro. I know it's not that hard, but that's the one you got to keep checking on, right? Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm going to slip up. That's where I'm going to slip up. Nah, it's not, I'm going to be looking for the Boston Buds. It's going to end up like just a turkey leg.
Speaker 2:You can't mess it up, bro. You can't mess it up. I promise you can't. I have that's because the fire got away from me Exactly.
Speaker 1:Same thing's going to happen.
Speaker 2:No, it's because you're going to use straight charcoal or whatever. I had charcoal and then I had too much wood in there.
Speaker 1:Oh, you actually had the apple wood.
Speaker 2:My wood caught fire bro. I mean obviously it's going to catch on fire, but I had way too much fire so it got way too hot, I wasn't calculating correctly.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to try that, but you can do with your charcoal then.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do with wood too, if y'all want to do with wood too.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to cook with wood a little bit. Yeah, it's really cool, bro, I like it. Not everybody likes it, but I like it. I like the smokiness of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like the smokiness of it too that flavor bro. Yeah, that's why I like the charcoal too, because it has that small flavor to it. I love that.
Speaker 2:They actually got like I like to use like a slow-cooked charcoal, like they actually sell like a slow-cooked.
Speaker 1:Oh, there is, oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Instead of having to wait until it turns white, you just throw it Okay. Okay, I'm going to have to check that out, bro.
Speaker 1:It's not too bad.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's low-key kind of a scam, because I feel like it's just the same thing, but I used it last time. I thought it was still pretty good.
Speaker 1:But does it last long Because?
Speaker 2:what I noticed with this one it doesn't last long. No, because you have the match light one.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, so that one, it should last.
Speaker 2:It should last longer, all right, but I'm going to shake that out then I feel like you get like a more consistent heat, but once all the coals, all the charcoals light up, then you're just going to have like a really hot temperature. But since you got the one that raises and lowers, you'll be able to control it. That is I'm telling you. It's a good grill.
Speaker 1:I finally I started using it.
Speaker 2:That day I was like Let me speed this up, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like, let me speed this up. No, because I was At first. It was going too fast. I was like, let me slow it down. I dropped it. I was like, oh, that's right, I can drop it. So I dropped that thing and then I closed it. I would close it.
Speaker 2:Just for a little bit Hang up. If I was Right, Once you learn your grill, bro, you learn how to do all the tricks and what all to do. When to close it, how long to close it what vents to open and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:But next time bro. Next time with the seasoned meat seasoned and the drinks.
Speaker 2:Fuck it bro. I think you're ready for a brisket, bro. I don't know, though.
Speaker 1:That's just my opinion, if I can do the brisket afterwards.
Speaker 2:It's the same thing. It's the same thing, no it's not the same thing.
Speaker 1:It's not the same thing, oh okay.
Speaker 2:The Boston butt's easy. What about?
Speaker 1:the brisket. That's the one you got 10-4.
Speaker 2:It's for hours, ain't it? That one takes the least. When I cook it, I start. I probably wake up like five, six, some shit like that Afternoon, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll let you keep doing that one.
Speaker 2:That's how long I smoke. I really appreciate you. Some people smoke their shit.
Speaker 1:I really appreciate you. I really appreciate you doing that for me. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2:That shit tastes so good. Yeah, that is Bro, that shit is crazy.
Speaker 1:I really appreciate you volunteering to do that shit this weekend. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Nah, I done lost, I done retired, papa, after the new grill master came and dethroned me. It's up to you now. I'll pass the spatula to you, bro, oh shit.
Speaker 1:You. Good, I'll pass it back a little bit.
Speaker 2:I'll teach you, bro. Just FaceTime me, just call me For the morning. I won't pick up then, but I'll get to you when my business hours are up. Weekends is like 10 to 2.
Speaker 1:Go away and go like what 600 minutes folks? Let's hit our fire. How do I?
Speaker 2:make the fire stop. Nah, but you got it, bro.
Speaker 1:Well, the brisket is kind of tricky, but Okay bro, I can prender I can prender Shit.
Speaker 2:You got it, bro, I believe in you, I believe in you.
Speaker 1:You good, I keep on doing my little grill meat, I'm good, I'm okay with my little grill meat. My little grill meat be good.
Speaker 2:I how they look like steak, though, like they do. Oh, I did like that. It tastes just like a steak.
Speaker 1:To be honest with you, like it just tastes like a really thin ribeye. Yeah, that's what it reminded me of. Yeah, but it's really good. I just feel like I just need to just trim the fat more. That's what I'm gonna do next time just trim the fat but still leave some fat, so actually cooked in there, and then, um, uh, just mix it with lime and so the fat a little bit more. I already got it, bro. All right, recipe in the head, but it's weekend. But it's weekend Round three who said this weekend?
Speaker 2:Round three. I ain't working. Oh wait, Might as well, do it tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Go ahead and pull up for lunch. No, go ahead and pull up for lunch, bro.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. I had two Boston butts Going at one time. Oh you did, didn't you that one?
Speaker 1:time. Yeah, that's right. Tight shit Bro. Just that's just a flex really.
Speaker 2:Nah, bro, cause I can, nah that's not even a flex, bro, people be doing like Six of them bro Six at once, then they be having the rack of reds, bro. Nah, bro, I wish I was there.
Speaker 1:Oh, but that's on the big ones. That's a big, big one.
Speaker 2:That's just when you know that's the grandmaster level right there. I ain't there yet, bro, so key.
Speaker 1:Instead of building a porch, bro, I'm going to build a grill into the porch, bro. You feel I know how I'm going to do it. I got the vision. Going to be crazy, bro, going to be crazy. And then I'm going to make a water slide from my house To your pool so I can just Just jump in there.
Speaker 2:No, sit all the way over here. Alright, bro, let's go ahead.
Speaker 1:And get into this. Oh, you ain't had Anything from this Weekend.
Speaker 2:Um, let's keep my stuff A little secret.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, for next time.
Speaker 2:Next time, next time and by that I mean, like what we did Saturday. Alright, baby, that's not. I'm going to save that, we will fuck. What do you say about that GoPro? All right guys. So today we're going to be talking about the well-known, the infamous.
Speaker 1:Wendigo, no, I'm just playing the Skinwalker. I was about to say hold on.
Speaker 2:We're talking about the infamous Skinwalker skinwalker, where some people like to call it all right, so well, shit, my fault.
Speaker 1:You want to start off one?
Speaker 2:you got it, bro. Go ahead tell them the lore about the skinwalker.
Speaker 1:First things first. First things first, because this is a big one I had. Skinwalkers are not Wendigos. They're not the same. They're both figures from Native American folklore, but they're originated from different cultures. They have distinct characteristics. So skinwalkers are shapeshifting, malevolent witches from Navajo culture, while Wendigos are cannibalistic supernatural beings. All right.
Speaker 1:All right, so check this out. They are called skinwalkers because they wear the skins of the animals they transform into. For this reason, it is taboo in the Navajo culture to wear the pelt of any predatory animal. Skill walkers may also wear animal skulls or antlers on their heads to gain more power. In Navajo culture I'm going to say it again yinagushi, meaning with it, he goes on all fours. It's a type of harmful witch who has the ability to shapeshift into animals, often for malevolent purposes, taking on the physical appearance of animals like coyotes, wolves, owls or crows, but it can really turn into almost any animal. Really, skinwalkers have the power to inflate disease, harm and death on humans and animals. A person said to gain the power to become a skinwalker upon initiation of the witchery way. Want me to break down what the yeah, yeah, yeah, All right so just a little what the witchery way is.
Speaker 1:It refers to a concept in Navajo mythology where individuals known as skinwalkers gain supernatural powers, including shapeshifting, through a dark path, often involving acts of violence or transgression. One must commit taboo acts, such as murder, often of a close relative. Some with the Navajo community consider it taboo to discuss skinwalkers, and it is believed that doing so can invite them to harm you.
Speaker 2:Another thing that they could do was like incest, or oh shit for real, fuck. What was the another thing that they could do was like incest, or oh shit for real. Um, fuck. What was the other shit that they could do?
Speaker 2:like that was a taboo, uh-huh, uh, grave robbing and using body parts, bone, skin organs and dark rituals okay because by performing those horrific acts, a person gains the ability to shape, shape, shift into an animal or supernatural being. They also acquire outer worldly or other or other-worldly powers, such as superhuman speed, strength and the ability to curse others when they do shit like that.
Speaker 1:Bro, that shit crazy to do that, bro, just to get that power. Just to get that power, bro. It's running a little faster bro. So skinwalkers are considered malevolent witches who use the power for evil, contrasting with medicine, men who use their spiritual knowledge for healing. While the Navajo are known for the skinwalker myth, similar concepts of harmful witchcraft and shapeshifting exist in other Native American tribes such as the Apache and Hopi, and in Latin American culture. The Nahuatl Skinwalkers are traditionally found in the Four Corners region of the North American Southwest, encompassing parts of Arizona, new Mexico, utah and Colorado. I used to think that shit was everywhere, like I used to think that shit was everywhere.
Speaker 2:They said it was like in Appalachia too right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Appalachia too.
Speaker 2:Right, that's what they say. I could have sworn. They said it was like in the Appalachian Four.
Speaker 1:Corners was real. That doesn't does not touch the Appalachian American Southwest parts of Arizona, new Mexico, utah.
Speaker 2:Or it might be the Winnego, I could have sworn people said there's like something up there too.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know, Maybe maybe.
Speaker 2:But I might have. Now, why is the same thing as the skinwalker?
Speaker 1:It's not the same one, but it encompasses, like other cultures have their own form of it's not like we have the Yeti.
Speaker 2:But people are like in the mountains, like when Snowy Tops have the. I mean we have Bigfoot and they have the.
Speaker 1:Yeti, something like that. Yeah, so it's like it goes with the stuff they had to do to gain their power. It lines up like other cultures, even though it's not the exact, you know, the exact same thing. Other cultures have, like similar things that they have to do, like rituals they have to do in order to be able to, to turn into, uh, or transform into animals okay, I wasn't too sure.
Speaker 2:I thought it was like the same thing or not.
Speaker 1:I mean same thing, sorry well, in a sense you could say it was the same thing, but they specifically said it was the um, like straight off the bat, because, and uh, it depends what they do to get those. Uh, get the spars, like obviously with the skinwalker. You know they got to do taboo acts and whatnot with the nawal. I didn't research it, but they have their other taboo stuff they got to do. But it might not have to be as crazy as, like you said, incest or grave robbering. It might be grave robbing to be real.
Speaker 2:Using body parts. Using body parts or like doing something to their family. Okay, I saw that skinwalkers tend to look like. They take the form of an animal that usually is a predator, such as like a coyote, wolf, owl, fox or bear.
Speaker 1:Sometimes they take the form of deers. I know there was a couple of videos of people taking videos of a deer, like the weird deers that be looking all crazy.
Speaker 2:It said, however, its appearance is often described as unnatural and disturbing. Some common descriptions include animals that move awkwardly on unnaturally fast eyes that glow in the dark, even when in human form. A creature that stands on two legs and suddenly drops on fours and then runs, runs away or whatever it walks on two and then drops on four and runs a hybrid like form that appears partially human and partially animal, strangely elongated limbs or an unnatural gait. Get, get, got, gait.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to say that an unusual what gait, gait, gait, yeah, yeah, witness off of the squirrel, this, uh. Witnesses often report seeing off animals wolf like human like eyes, wolves with human-like eyes, coyotes that walk like people or deer that look strangely distorted. In some cases, skinwalkers are said to wear animal skins over their human forms, which is how they acquired the ability to shapeshift.
Speaker 1:So a skinwalker ranch in Utah has become a popular occasion associated with paranormal activity, including alleged encounters with skinwalkers. So when they find you, they are believed to use their powers for evil, potentially stalking, sabotaging or even replacing you, rather than directly attacking you.
Speaker 1:So I didn't know that I used to think they were like uh, that would just rip you rip you to shreds. That's what I thought, but I guess that comes from me confusing skinwalkers with wendigos as well. Um, so, okay, so skinwalkers can transform into animals, like we covered before to. So they do this to move around more effectively and disguise themselves, making it easier to sneak into someone's house or stalk them. Uh, they're said to engage in malicious acts such as sabotaging vehicles, causing accidents or placing curses on people using magic. Um, they're believed to engage in malicious acts such as sabotaging vehicles, causing accidents or placing curses on people using magic. They're believed to be able to mimic human voices or animal sounds to deceive others. Some beliefs suggest that skinwalkers can replace people, mimicking their behaviors and thoughts after studying them, instead of directly attacking. Their methods are often more subtle, such as shooting quote-unquote bad medicine darts at victims or placing curses.
Speaker 2:Oh damn, I didn't know that I didn't know that one either, I just I was just going to say just imagine you're chilling.
Speaker 1:You get hit with a dart. You curse, now Whole skin walker.
Speaker 2:I saw that they possess supernatural abilities, abilities making them formidable and terrifying entities. Some of their rumored powers include shape shift and obviously they have the ability to turn into whatever animal they want to. Uh, they have superhuman speed and strength. They can outrun vehicles, jump unnaturally high and overpower humans easily, mimic, cry and voice manipulation. They can imitate. They can imitate human voices and animal calls to lure people out of their homes or into the wilderness. They have mind control and possession. They can influence human thoughts, cause paralysis and even temporarily take control of a person's body. They do dark magic and curses. Skinwalkers are believed to cast spells that bring disease, misfortune or even death to their enemies.
Speaker 1:Tight shit. It's crazy. They can do all that, bro Right, and not even be spotted or just be attacking from the shadows, really Just doing all that, but that shit is crazy.
Speaker 2:Imagine, bro, you're just chilling in the woods. No, you're not even chilling, you're walking a trail. You're about to head home. Out of nowhere, you just see a deer Over a Hojutsu, throwing a Hojutsu sign. Last thing you hear is Fireball.
Speaker 1:Nah, the worst thing If you see a deer Standing on two legs, he takes his hooves off.
Speaker 2:In his hands. He is actually.
Speaker 1:What was that from? I don't know. You know what I'm talking about. You see that? Oh my God, that should terrify me, bro. All right, Okay. So how can you attack back? How can you defend?
Speaker 2:or something like that.
Speaker 1:Kick him in the balls. Kick him in the balls, good old pocket sand Run away. Pocket sand. So oh no, oh yeah, it said. So, oh no, oh yeah, oh yeah, Alright, oh no again. What did I do? Okay, so skinwalkers are said to be vulnerable to powerful shamans and rituals. You know, ask me, pull up. Talk about hey, lay, lay, lay, lay, lay. As well as now. This is crazy. As well as bullets dipped in white ash, it hit the head or neck.
Speaker 2:You really got to have that out of hand In white ash, white ash.
Speaker 1:I forgot to look at what white ash is. If I am not mistaken, that's just ground to the bones. Oh, is that what that is? I believe it. Hold on, let me look at it before I tell y'all wrong.
Speaker 2:Fake news. Fake news.
Speaker 1:What is white ash I?
Speaker 2:shot a wendigo with white ash and it didn't do anything.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay. So I was completely wrong, completely wrong. So it's a tree species native to Eastern North America. So just the ash from that tree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought it was ashes. It was ash from that tree, okay. It was an asteroid tree, okay. So yeah, I didn't know. It was a specific tree though.
Speaker 1:This is a. It's known as a Phrygianus americana. It's a tree species native to eastern North America, characterized by its tough, strong and sharp resistant wood, making it ideal for tools, sports equipment and baseball bats. Let's go so. Yeah, Good old, that's crazy. Right, there's that tree right there.
Speaker 2:That's a big ass Fucking tree.
Speaker 1:If you ever see that tree, burn it, get the ass from it, put it in your pocket.
Speaker 2:Be locked and loaded Everywhere I go. Lock and loaded everywhere, bro.
Speaker 1:So, technically, technically, just hypothetically speaking Right, just hypothetically speaking, you know, you find out, you find, you find a skinwalker While he coming for you, you put some white, white ass on your hand, you slap the dog shit out. The motherfucker will smith type shit. Will smith type shit talking about. Keep my wife saying out your fucking man. You feel technically you should be able to do some damage to it technically speaking. That that's, that's what they telling me.
Speaker 1:That's that's what these that's what they're telling me, that's what they're telling me right here, right now, Using that logic. Okay, so they can be counted by. Shamans who know good magic perform specific spells and rituals to return the Skinwalkers' evil back to them. In some versions, Skinwalkers are vulnerable to several weapons similar to other shapeshifters. Some sources suggest that a skinwalker can be defeated by discovering their human identity and then pronouncing their name and the skinwalker's true identity.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Right there, Jaquan. Is that you, Jaquan? I know that you back there, Jaquan.
Speaker 1:Boy, stop playing, boy, stop playing. Get your ass over here, you know your mama been looking for you.
Speaker 2:Jaquan, I'm melting On some swiper shit. Do you want that? You, oh man.
Speaker 1:Damn, I'm just trying. It's hard out here. It's out here for a skin walk. Damn, what the fuck was that? My fault? No, you good bro, damn, I'm just trying. Hey man, it's hard out here. It's out here for a skinwalker. Damn, what the fuck was that.
Speaker 2:My fault, man no you good, bro.
Speaker 1:Some legends suggest that Skinwalkers are also Vulnerable to specific rituals, such as the creation of a circle Using Anasazi symbols. So Anasazi symbols Are symbols that originate From the Anasazi people, one of the Native American tribes who settled around the southwestern United States of America. They were used as protection against Wendigos as well. Oh well, that's what they meant. I'm sorry, so it was originally for the Wendigos, but they're saying that you can also use those symbols as a protection circle against a skinwalker.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay, I'm with you now um I saw that they said even even like even just talking about skin walkers is taboo. That, yeah, yeah, it draws you, it draws, it draws in close.
Speaker 1:Yeah and they don't like. Uh, that's why their culture is like taboo, where they don't want to, don't don't even talk about here we are. I don't say the word, like I don't know how many times we. No, I said me.
Speaker 2:Who don't know? I have the Shinigami eyes. I can see their full name.
Speaker 1:Taisha, why write it in?
Speaker 2:the notebook. I look above his head and see his gamer tag Yayo Not the gamer tag, that's another thing that they said, though, like they said, they don't like when, like they said, you can't whistle On the Reservation land.
Speaker 1:Like whenever.
Speaker 2:The sun's coming down. They said not to Whistle because you're Attracted or some shit Like that.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say crazy, Because Usually when I'm walking I start whistling, Even though you're not supposed Right, just casually. I casually just like at work when I'm walking back and forth I'm whistling. You can catch me on a Tuesday afternoon just doing nothing whistling. I would have not made it as a Native American bro, I would have got ate up, bro Killed.
Speaker 2:Taken over. All the window goes coming up for you. There he is, he's right there. I saw that there was like a couple modern sightings or encounters okay so this one is called the coyote.
Speaker 2:That wasn't, that wasn't all right in the late 1990s, jacob, a college student from flagstaff, arizona, decided to take a night drive to visit his family in Gallup, new Mexico. His route took him through long desolate stretches of Navajo Nation territory. It was around 1.30 am and the only light came from his car's headlights and the moon above. As he drove along the empty highway, something darted across the road up ahead. At first he thought it was a coyote, but something about it was off. It moved strangely, almost like it was gliding rather than running. He caught a brief glimpse of it in his headlights and saw mated, patchy fur and long bony limbs. It disappeared into the darkness. Shaken off his unease, he continued driving, but after like about 10 minutes, he had a sinking feeling that he wasn't alone. He glanced in his rearview mirror and saw a shape running behind his car on two legs Fuck man Bro.
Speaker 2:Imagine this, bro, like you saw it go across your car. You look back, it's in your backseat.
Speaker 1:Nah fuck that, Nah, nah, fuck that. That's like one of my fears.
Speaker 2:Right there, bro, like you driving in there. Dude, right there just living.
Speaker 1:Nah, that's why when I, when I draw a night, bro, I got my my back, I got it facing down no cap bro, no cap. I ain't even dealing with that, I ain't even dealing reverse. I use my two side mirrors. You good, I got two in the back. Anyway, I don't even look back there, really.
Speaker 2:I know there can't be nothing back there.
Speaker 1:I knowo can't nobody stand in it, unless it's laying on top of the big machine.
Speaker 2:That's like one of my fears. Right there, though, bro, for real. His heart pounded as he realized that the thing was keeping up with his car, despite the fact that he was now going 60 miles per hour. As it got closer, he could make out its twisted features. Its face was a grotesque mix of human and coyote, with that wide hollow eyes and a mouth that seemed too large for its face. Then, suddenly, the thing let a horrific scream not quite human, not quite animal no, that was crazy no, that was crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't think they could hear it. I don't think they heard it.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna add that you gotta add that to it. That shit was crazy.
Speaker 2:Hold the fuck up who got scared then suddenly oh wait, we already got that. Oh yeah, not quite human, not quite animal, it was a blood curling. Well, that made every hair on his body stand up. So Jacob slammed the guy's pedal and pushed his car to 90 push that desperately, trying to outrun the creature. It chased him for nearly a mile before it abruptly veered off the road and vanished into the night. When he finally made it home, his grandmother took a look at him and said did you see it?
Speaker 1:oh shit before he already knew uh-huh, she already knew.
Speaker 2:Before he answered, she nodded knowingly you saw a skin walker, didn't you? Jacob, barely slept that night. Fuck, tight shit, fuck. She knew, she knew. Maybe she was the skin walker who's hold up though? Movie, movie idea. Right here we write the plot twist he had Cosmic Cove.
Speaker 1:We like to direct, to direct and fantasize about each other on a mountain, oh in a tent in a tent with cowboy hotheads, bunch of silly dudes. Nah, brother, but that shit is crazy, bro, cause one Motherfucker catching up Right.
Speaker 2:Keeping up.
Speaker 1:Keeping up with the car, bro.
Speaker 2:Low key bro. Somebody was to keep up With my car, bro, and I was pushing that bitch and it was going 90. He was keeping up. I trade that bitch In the next day. Alright, give me a hellcat, go ahead, give me that hellcat run that credit score, fuck it alright, go meet him up again. What up, fuck boy gone.
Speaker 1:Alright, dust his ass now what I would've done. I would've hit the brakes and then slammed into him. That's what I would've done, real shit. I seen a motherfucker catch up to me. You feel me? Go on, go on, hit that shit, go on with that shit. And then that motherfucker catch up to me. Hand the brakes, hand that motherfucker. I'ma see him tumbling into the woods, bro, look you catching up to me. You don't got health insurance. I already know that for a fact you don't got health insurance.
Speaker 1:You not going to call the cops Win-win situation here. I'm going to have a wolf just fucked up in the woods, just all fucked up, all dismembered. All right, I got a story for you. So when I was in grade school, we went to visit my grandma. She was never home. Most of the visits were pretty uneventful, typical boring old people stuff, except she always kept her curtains drawn shut and will always peek out the window and out, and when someone asked what she was doing she would simply reply you know, she is watching me. This went on for nearly the entire visit until a few days before we were due to leave.
Speaker 1:My grandma and then baby brother were in the front yard evening planting flowers when all of a sudden my grandma started shouting to my little brother get away from that creature. It's not safe. Of course, being in Nevada, we all assumed that my brother had found a scorpion or a rattlesnake. So we all ran outside to see my grandmother clutching my little brother and shaking in terror. Against the side of the house, standing out in the yard was a large black, great Dane-sized dog. It was staring at my grandmother, and it was. It was staring at my grandmother with an intensity I've never seen before. It looked up at us, gave it a little huff and and bound it off. I don't remember if it moved unusual fast or not, but do remember it had really deep yellow eyes, damn for a big old dog, bro.
Speaker 2:A big old dog, bro, right, big old dog, I would have kicked it square in the nuts. I would have.
Speaker 1:I would have shot that thing. No, they wouldn't have shot it.
Speaker 2:I would have just started. Then I started blasting. All right, this one's called the Strange Figure at the Window. Okay, okay. In 2014, maria, a nurse in her late thirties, moved to a small town near Shiprock, new Mexico. She had always been skeptical of Navajo legends. Navajo legends, sorry, dismissing them as superstition. We'll have Rick, I mean we'll have we'll have, bro Until the night.
Speaker 2:She woke up to scratching at her bedroom window. At first she thought it was just the wind or a stray animal, but as she still lay in bed listening, she realized it wasn't just random noises. The noise was deliberate, slow and methodical. Her bedroom window faced an empty field and there shouldn't have been anything or anyone outside at that hour. Taking a deep breath, she reached for her phone and turned on the flashlight. What she saw froze her blood. A dark humanoid figure was standing there just outside the window, pressed against the glass. It was too tall to be a normal person, at least seven feet high. Its fingers were long and clawed and it had eyes that glowed in the dark. But the most disturbing thing, it had no mouth.
Speaker 1:It had no mouth it had no mouth.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, what the fuck? So maria screamed and scrambled to turn on the lights. By the time she looked back, the figure was gone. She didn't sleep that night and the next morning she called an elderly navajo woman she worked with at the hospital. When she described what happened, the woman became very serious. You need to clean your, cleanse your house. The woman said that was a skinwalker, it was watching you, bro. That's so crazy.
Speaker 1:The crazy part is, though, methodically, like just tapping on shit Right, like just purposely, it wants you to see it. I hate that. I hate that it wants your attention, it wants your attention, but I hate that.
Speaker 2:I, I hate, I hate that that, uh, it wants your attention, it wants your attention but I hate that I hate. Uh, damn, bro, hold on, bro, I gotta take a shit cue in the music to come back, and we're back, and we're back, guys, sorry about that y'all. Uh, I had to take an emergency phone call, so we had to pause the episode, and by phone call I mean I had to take a massive, super, mega ultra paddle shit, my fault y'all, and when you go, my stomach, bro.
Speaker 2:I got the bubble guts or something bro.
Speaker 1:Sandwich, bro. It's the forbidden. Combo, bro the forbidden right beer and cheese.
Speaker 2:I don't know what the fuck I was thinking, bro. Alright, what you got, bro. Sorry about that y'all. We're coming back to it. Did you finish your?
Speaker 1:yeah, you finished yours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did.
Speaker 1:That was it okay my uncle and cousin saw a large deer on the side of the road. When they got closer it hopped over the fence like a bipedal man one time. Oh, okay, so this is a list of little stories. So it hopped over the fence like a bipedal man. That's the end of that one. Yeah, imagine just seeing that. Oh, deer, just jumping over, just gets up. Salutations, fine, gentlemen. So one time, driving back from Gallup, my dad saw an old oh, that's the other place that you said right, gallup, right. My dad saw an old Nahuatl woman walking on the side of the road and when he slowed down to offer her advice she took off into the plains quickly with an inhumane speed.
Speaker 2:Fuck.
Speaker 1:Bitch, she gone running Ah bro, whole track star Shared runner. Shared track star Gone. Ah bro, they gave me shivers, bro. Imagine that I seen the old lady going home right now and run that bitch. All right, I ain't even gonna give her a chance to run. Once when I was a kid, my family was at my aunt's house when we were toyed with by a few entities. They would make animal noises and when we looked in the direction in which the noises were coming, they would turn a flashlight on and off. The noises would come from all directions and increase in shorter succession. Usually when I'm there on the reservation, visiting alone late at night, I will feel the presence of evil and dread. Panic and paranoia will wash over me and as sudden as it comes, it will leave. Alright. So that's the end of those little, those stories.
Speaker 2:Damn fucking chair's all rinky. This wood is struggling to hold this fat ass up. My fault y'all.
Speaker 1:Chest down top. Wd-40 bro, that's all you need. Wd-40 bro, you be straight bro. That's all you need.
Speaker 2:Give it another Code of lacquer thinner. I mean not lacquer thinner.
Speaker 1:Liqueur.
Speaker 2:Is that what it's called? Another code of Polyurethane Stiffen?
Speaker 1:it up a little bit, bro, I'm telling you bro, I'm gonna start liqueur.
Speaker 2:Is that what it's called? Another coat of polyurethane.
Speaker 1:Stiffen it up a little bit. I'm telling you, bro, I'm going to start building them chairs, bro, I'll build some crazy chairs.
Speaker 2:Right, you got any other stories?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got more, so okay. So my uncle is a Mexican and Native American. This happened in the Mojave Desert in Southern California. He was driving around with his girlfriend late at night and they saw something that looked like a huge black dog on the side of the road. He slowed down and the dog began crossing the road. Instead of walking like a normal dog would, this thing moved like a toy walking horse. He said it stopped in the middle of the road and stared right at them and its eyes had a red glow. My uncle is the most badass person I know. Know, and it scared the crap out of him.
Speaker 2:Just by that, I believe that. Do you have any more stories? No, no, no. Do you want to keep going? Yeah, you got it. I got shit to tell, go ahead. Oh, I got like two more, two, three more, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, this happened about 12 years ago, indian Reservation. One winter I was home for Christmas, taking care of the farm while my parents were away Christmas shopping. As I was home by myself way late in the night and all I hear cows freaking out, I knew it had to be the wild dogs that are rampant in the area. So I throw on some boots, grab a shotgun, load it up and head out to the field. This was the perfect scenario for a horror movie. It was a cloudy, but there was a full moon, moon and it was breaking through the clouds just right, right enough to light up the snow.
Speaker 1:I ran out into the middle of the field and just in time I see two dogs that were standing up facing each other and fighting. I think perfect, two for one. So I pump a shell to the chamber of my of my 12 gauge. And then it happened the two dogs heard the rack. They both stopped, looked over at me and ran away on their back legs. Immediately I froze and there we go. Story about skill walkers and all the other native legends I grew up with flew through my mind. Keep in mind I am a white guy and up until then these were just boogeyman stories that native kids like to tell to scare us.
Speaker 2:Just imagine Hell no, bro, fuck all that shit bro, I start blasting. Bro, that's one thing they ain't doing.
Speaker 1:They ain't shooting. Y'all need to start shooting, man. Y'all need to dip them bullets in some ash and start shooting, right. Okay, this didn't happen to me, but a very close friend of mine. I've heard a lot about coyotes and skinwalkers and had a weird experience or two with coyotes. The creepiest was waking up to my sleeping bag being surrounded in paw prints without ever hearing them during the night. That is crazy, but never anything paranormal, so to speak. Uh, patrick's story, however, who name dropping, kept me from going back to a favorite, uh backcountry secret stash.
Speaker 1:He was leaving the area one morning uh, he had been camping there a couple days and said there was a coyote that always seemed to be closed by like in his peripheral vision, but never over it over. He loaded up his truck and started to drive down the wash out of the fire road. At the end of the wash he could see the coyote following him. When he pulled onto the road it was running next to him. Now he was freaked out so he sped up. He said he was going 35 or so and it was running along beside him. Definitely not. When he looked back, the coyote was running on two legs and was wearing what Patrick said, looked like a buckskin pants. An instant later it was a person wearing coyote fur keeping pace with his truck. When he looked at it again, it was gone. Damn, it's almost similar to the story you told. Fuck that, bro, right.
Speaker 2:Whole freaking creature keeping up with your vehicle. Bro, fuck all that bro.
Speaker 1:That's a no-go, bro. And then this one, just actually he. I guess he caught him in the middle of transforming. He was transitioning, he really caught him in the middle of it, bro.
Speaker 2:He was really coming out?
Speaker 1:He really was coming out. You know, shit is coming out.
Speaker 2:Oh, bro, bro, he should have just shot him mid-transformation Boom.
Speaker 1:Silly goose, Load him up and go damn bro, that's a simple solution Dip your bullets, bro. I'm going home All my bullets about to be dipped in that white ash bro. About to dip all of them, bro.
Speaker 2:Just all that charcoal ash.
Speaker 1:Who knows, I haven't cleaned my grill out yet.
Speaker 2:Start blasting.
Speaker 1:Boom boom, boom, boom, boom, boom boom Officer. It was a Skywalker officer. That's a fucking cat, you dumbass.
Speaker 2:Or was it? Wait a minute, where did you come from? I never called 911. Holy shit, police officer starts sweating.
Speaker 1:Police officer starts sweating. Police officer starts sweating in Skinwalker.
Speaker 2:I guess that's going to end off on that subject then. That's all the news we got for that Skinwalker stuff. Let us know what y'all think about the Skinwalkers. Tell us if y'all have any cool, interesting stories or any history about it that we might have missed or any fun facts or anything like that about it that we might have missed or any fun facts or anything like that. Or if you've ever experienced an ex like an experience with, uh, if you've ever experienced an experience by experience, experience of experiencing a skinwalker experience wise experience now.
Speaker 2:But let's go ahead and head into everybody's favorite time, favorite subject. You already know what time it is it's time for Fear. Is it all in your?
Speaker 1:mind, or could it be real? Welcome to Fear Fact or Fiction.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, tell them what today's subject is. Take this out.
Speaker 1:We got the mano peluda, In English the hairy hand.
Speaker 2:The hairy, the hairy hand, the hairy hand if you will.
Speaker 1:If you will, all right, let me start off a little bit of it all right.
Speaker 1:So, uh, mano peluda translates to hairy hand in english and is a mexican folklore figure, a large hairy hand with long nails that is said to appear in basements or through windows to scare, mischievous or wandering children. Uh, imagine being told you can't leave your bed at night. Or la mano peluda te va a agarrar. This translates to uh, the hairy hand will get you, uh so, just off the rip. Well, okay, I'll wait on that, I gotta, I gotta an account over that. Uh, the legend of mano peluda can be heard in almost every land, america country, but seems bigger in mexico and in colombia, and it dates back to the spanish inquisition. So there are many legends that tell that.
Speaker 2:Uh, tell the tale that under your bed there is a portal to the they are the great homecoming the time where we liberated all those people of all that buffoonery that they were believing, all that buffoonery that they were believing All that buffoonery that they were doing All that third world country bullshit that they was being active Activities they was conducting. We saved them the grace.
Speaker 1:The Spanish in here is tweaking right now.
Speaker 2:Vosotros salvamos esos vatos.
Speaker 1:Doing legal, doing crazy 50 Day Street baby.
Speaker 2:It shows no 60.
Speaker 1:Day Street you on 60 Day.
Speaker 2:Street, 60 Day Street. It shows baby, my man speaking, my man speaking my name isn't reverence, no more. What?
Speaker 1:is it, bro El?
Speaker 2:It shows baby my man speaking my man speaking my name isn't reverence, no more. What is it, bro El? It's with the V Reverence, el, get the fuck in Reverence, reverence.
Speaker 1:We got to say that fast, let me say that fast. Jesus, all right. What was I before I got conquered, before I got liberated? You weren't conquered.
Speaker 2:You were liberated of the chains that weighed you down for all that buffoonery that was passed onto you into your humble, simple brain, smooth brain, what's up to?
Speaker 1:your smooth your monkey brain. He said y'all were naked before I showed up. Y'all were down to your legs. Y'all were down to your legs. Y'all were down to your dick and balls. Couldn't even get A little turnout here. Who really said that Right now?
Speaker 2:Word for word. Bar for bar, it's recorded Clip it, clip it, clip it, clip it and send it. Alright, so.
Speaker 1:The legend of La Mano Peluda Can be heard in almost Every land in American country, but seems bigger in Mexico and in Colombia, and it dates back To the Spanish Inquisition. There are many legends that tell that Under your bed there is a portal To the underworld, and this allows For more stories Such as La Mano Peluda To grow. For more stories such as La Mano Peluda to grow. So most versions of the legend say that La Mano Peluda belongs to the man that lived and died during the Spanish Inquisition. He was wrongfully accused of robbery and his hand was cut off. When this happened, he swore he would get revenge on everyone for this, but he remained alive and died of natural causes later on. That would be me. Fuck you, fuck all of y'all. I curse y'all. I curse y'all. Wait till I die, but she's died 80 years later. Everybody else that did me wrong died before me. Sorry, excuse me. So another version say that his hand was cut off, he swore revenge and then he was killed and buried in the cemetery. Now the hand comes back, seeking revenge, seeking vengeance.
Speaker 1:The version from Mexico is a bit different than that. It takes place in the year 1908 in Puebla. There was a man named Señor Villa, who was known as Horta, and he and his wife, la Gangosa, owned that is crazy, owned a pawn shop. Horta was short, lit on the bigger side and very hairy. He was, by all accounts, a pretty terrible person. He sold off his wealth, ripped off his customers, treated them badly and never in his life did one good deed.
Speaker 1:It was common for the people of Puebla to be hurt, saying Que Dios te seque la mano. Please, god, dry out his hand when walking in front of his pawn shop. After greedy old Hortadan, god did indeed dry out his hand. Sometime after his death, the local newspaper ran a story that the graveyard keeper told them. The graveyard keeper would see a black, hairy hand with rings stick out of Horta's graveyard and they would look for victims to tear out their eyeballs and choke them to death. When it was done killing, it would return to Orta's grave. After this story was published and to this day, there are those who claim the hand pulled them out of their bed while sleeping and many who have seen the hand moving through the fields searching for more victims.
Speaker 2:Damn bro. That's pretty crazy right there.
Speaker 1:Imagine all that.
Speaker 2:Right, a whole hand, a whole hand. Adam's family type shit is just terrorizing everybody, bro, for real, bro, what are you going to do if you see a whole hand?
Speaker 1:Give it a high five.
Speaker 2:Give it a firm handshake. How you doing, brother? Put it right there Arm wrestling, two or nothing. Two or nothing. I saw there was like religious fears um. The legend often warns against greed, evil or sinful behaviors, aligning with christian warnings about divine punishment. Then it was used as parental discipline. So in many households parents use the story to scare children into behaving.
Speaker 1:If you don't sleep early, la mano peluda is going to come get you um my mom used to do that to me for real, not necessarily say la mano peluda, but she used oh, just anything, or just like uh when I would uh no, she really wouldn't say what, like she wouldn't specify, like she wouldn't say la mano peluda or anything like that, or like she would just say Something was gonna be.
Speaker 1:It's usually when I was Disrespectful to my mom or I didn't wanna go to sleep or something like that, or like I was just being rude. You know, just a Nonsense little kid. She's like Okay, en la noche te voy a jalar pata.
Speaker 2:Like at night they gonna pull. What the fuck is wood? You're sitting on a whole wooden chair. How did that make you feel as a kid, though. Oh it's true, go ahead, trauma dump Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I didn't do it, man. No, I mean it just like it used to shame me out, because I'd be like I'd be like fuck what if something actually does pull my leg, like what the fuck am I going to do? After a while I was just like my bullshit would stop. And then you know you're a kid so you forget about that stuff. And then you do it again and then she would tell me the same stuff and I'm like fuck you know what? Maybe not.
Speaker 2:Who used to jump on their bed. I don't care. Jump on their bed, I don't care, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:Nah, nah, I've never, I've never, I've never did I? Nah, I don't think I've ever. As long as I got exposed to that type of shit at a very early age, I was like, nah, I don't want none of this shit ever coming up to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I ain't want none of that smoke, really you.
Speaker 1:They locked me in the closet and put a scary movie on. Did they for real, full volume. No, I'm just joking. No, I'm just joking. Go ahead and travel, joe.
Speaker 2:So, like we said, so parents used to use that as a discipline tactic for kids. I'm not saying y'all should do it. I'm not saying I'm against it because sometimes you just got to get them kids in line.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you have to go to somewhat of a drastic measure.
Speaker 2:Would you rather be hitting your kids or kind of traumatizing them in the form of scaring them.
Speaker 1:I'd rather just pay for a third pitch down the line. I'd much rather do that than just fucking hitting them.
Speaker 2:Look at me. I turned out great, dyslexic, twitching, social anxiety. I'm surprised we have a podcast. Wait a minute, people can hear me. Who thought this was a good idea, who said how many people listen to this online? So there's also fear of the unknown. So the concept of a severed living hand invokes deep primal terror as the hand acts independently, violating natural laws, type shit like that man type shit, type shit.
Speaker 1:So uh, okay, I got another version of the of the legend. Uh, it describes uh, the hand is black, hairy, with very sharp nails in columbia. The nails have poison at the tips it's twice as big as your average adult hand.
Speaker 1:It is disembodied and leaves the trail blood behind it. Maggots can be seen moving around the hand as well. The hand waits for children children to get out out of bed, to then spring out from under the bed and pull the child down to the underworld with it, and Columbia has also said to not only come out from under the bed but also from big windows and behind doors. There's also a version of the tale where the hand comes from out of the wall. So you must beware we're sleeping against the wall. That would have.
Speaker 1:I would have known this when I was little, but I would have been right, both straight, because my, I had a window, I had an air vent. Oh, you did my. My bed was against two walls. I had two walls to worry about. Fuck, there's a closet now. I would have been, bro, terrified bro, I would have been straight up been terrified. I would've not survived childhood, bro, I would've not been here.
Speaker 2:With this knowledge, with this knowledge, I would've never stood a chance. So when?
Speaker 1:I have a kid.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna tell him to you gonna behave and listen to me, or the Manapalooza is gonna come get?
Speaker 1:Let them listen to this.
Speaker 2:Dear God, they can't read, for shit, cut this bullshit off.
Speaker 1:They're going to look at me, Daddy. This is you reading.
Speaker 2:Shut the fuck up, boy. I can speak better now. Bitch Fucking take me.
Speaker 2:I saw that like you said, the way the mano paluda attacks. It strangles people. People claim to wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air as their hairy hand wraps itself around their throat, drags people away, scratches them, claws them, just creeps in the darkness. People often hear noises like tapping, like crawling sounds or whatever, and they said it attacks the wicked. So some stories suggest that the Mano Peluda specifically targets liars, thieves and those who have wronged others. Okay, a little mischievous little motherfucker. So maybe it's a good thing, maybe it's a bad thing, right?
Speaker 1:I don't know, let me know. So I got right here a way to ward off the mano peluda.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Matter of fact. Rock paper scissors. Matter of fact, I'll let you guess. What do you think would be ineffective? You just Heat.
Speaker 2:The heat. The heat, bro, you're telling me a hand's going to come up to me. If I got a whole fucking blowtorch, if I got an aerosol, if I got an air salt, if I have an air salt can and a lighter, that thing is not going to be touching me.
Speaker 1:Bad little ass kid, that's what head comes for you. Bad ass, little kid.
Speaker 2:When I found that out, bro, it was game over for the whole world. Bro, bad ass little kid. Some dude said watch this.
Speaker 1:I was like I can make a flamethrower that one time they kill a spider like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, for real. They said blew up that shit. I burnt my finger. My dumb ass kept my finger up here, but I did it I did it.
Speaker 1:I was the brightest, the boy that I shine, nah, so just wearing socks at night, oh shit, that's it. That's it. Well, that's the only thing that I saw, without it was a counter counter to to a month from getting you at night.
Speaker 2:Wear your socks at night. Just wear your socks at night. What does it do Like? What Does it say anything?
Speaker 1:It just said just the creature says to it just says because, since they're asleep, wearing socks at night will prevent it from attacking you.
Speaker 2:Damn, Go to bed with some socks on y'all. Y'all heard it here first from Cosmic Cole.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:If you don't want the Mano Padula coming to come get you, wear your motherfucking socks.
Speaker 1:Nah see my freak, yeah, I get it, I know.
Speaker 2:Not right there. Grab up here. That's definitely my leg. You're tugging me, you're tugging, you're tugging too hard.
Speaker 1:Be a little smoother, bro. Somebody come get it. Officer, imagine the man put a restraining order on you.
Speaker 2:It's talking through like silence.
Speaker 1:He did what to you? He did what when he put the butter. All right, so. Just wear socks then Just wear socks, that's it.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's it. I saw that. They said you could do prayers and religious symbols. So, carrying a crucifix, rosary, holy water, said to keep the hand at bay. Many believe praying fervently can drive it away. Um, lighting candles a lit candle, particularly a blessed one, is thought to dispel supernatural entities, including la mano peluda, salt and protective circles. Uh, repenting for sins, avoiding fear many folk legends suggest that fear gives spirits power. Those who claim, I mean those who stay calm and refuse to panic might avoid being attacked. Kind of like they said if you see something scary, you're supposed to like cuss it out, yeah. Or like show it that you're not afraid of it or whatever.
Speaker 1:That's what I grew up. Yeah, that's what I grew up. Yeah, that's that's the same thing. You're supposed to cuss, cuss out, because entities and stuff like that too yeah all right, just because you hurt their feelings.
Speaker 2:Imagine, bro, a whole entity come up to me. Ooh, then you just hit it with that te pesa la cola, or or um some some casual like, casual like uh el no se baña.
Speaker 1:Bah, tear, tear that money in your butt hit him with that, va llorar.
Speaker 2:Ah, quiere llorar quiere llorar?
Speaker 1:ah, va llorar. That money apart, hit him with that Vajoran, ah, vajoran, vajoran.
Speaker 2:Vajoran.
Speaker 1:Whole demon, whole 12 foot demon. Just you know, just want to like fucking hang out with you guys. Just flies away. Just flies away.
Speaker 2:No goes to hell, just goes away All right.
Speaker 1:So that that was all information I had. Apart from that, I have like accounts and stories and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, let me hear one. Okay, so this is. I don't know if y'all know this is from my boy Jeruni. He had an account. Oh, for real Dun-dun.
Speaker 2:He had an account with when.
Speaker 1:With it. Okay, so I called him. You know he picked up.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, put him on the phone.
Speaker 1:Right, go ahead. Hey, yo, jared, yes, nah, so yeah, he's well, I don't need to know my notes, but so he did say he can't tell me if it was Harry specifically, or like he just saw a hand like what was about him. So what happened was that he was arguing with my mom, saw a hand like what was about him. So what happened was that he was arguing with my mom. He was arguing with her just just uh, um, just arguing with her, just uh. I don't know if it was disrespectful or not, but he went to his bed, right. So then he felt something hit his foot while he was laying down. He was by himself, room was dark. He felt something hit his foot, like just hit. So when he looked down, see what it was, he saw a darkish, uh, darkish hand reaching from under the bed towards his foot, like it was coming again to, like. That shit was like fucks his foot up, fuck is it? Grab his penis, caressing his balls, right, that ain't that ain't fucking toes so.
Speaker 1:So he felt that first hit looked down. Then that's when he saw like a hand coming from underneath the bed. Oh damn bro, and so he just got up and ran to my mom's room and apologized and was like was crying and everything Like.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry. I told her what happened and my mom went with him and just checked out the bed Just like you know, it's okay, calm down. Uh, the bed, the bed. And I, uh-huh, just like you know, it's okay, calm down, like relax, I I kind of remember the story. Uh, my mom told me, she told me too, and she was like she got scared because like he's, like there's, you won't see that man cry, just came in there crying and whatnot, and but my mom said he was like legit scared but that man was white bro that man was that man turned pale bro and uh, but yeah, so that's Jeroen's account bro.
Speaker 2:Damn bro. Come on, jeroen. I didn't even know you experienced something like that, bro. I had to call him bro. He should have put the do-rag on.
Speaker 1:He lost the do-rag. He lost the do-rag, he lost his powers. Then, bro, ever since bro, ever since he lost that do-rag.
Speaker 2:He's like Samson, but with the do-rag, bro, right.
Speaker 1:He lost his power.
Speaker 2:bro, you really want to try and bugger the me boy. You're about to bend the block on you. Dude, what they say. You're about to be in Swiss cheese. You're about to be Swiss cheese. You're about to be Swiss cheese. Fuck with me.
Speaker 1:Bro, I thought that was way before he had his gun too. He only meant with a Swiss Swiss the floor there. Boom boom, boom, boom, boom boom. He didn't want none of those.
Speaker 2:Good old reliable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but, yeah, but Damn bro.
Speaker 2:That's pretty crazy, bro. Done type of type of situation. That's kind of like we grew up with, like like I talked to you about it, I think, or I talked to my girlfriend about it we were taught like. We were told not to play like, make shadows like do shadow figures?
Speaker 2:with our hands or whatever, like make whatever. Because I remember I did it one time at night it was me and my cousin, I think, or some shit like that and I think my aunt saw us and she was like, hey, don't be doing that. We're like, wow, they're like because you could be doing it with both your hands and then a third hand would come out of nowhere and start making shakes with you or whatever. So I was like, yeah, I ain't never doing this shit again, I ain't never doing this way to let me sleep at night. Thanks for telling me 12 o'clock at that night. You could. You could have went to the morning. You go that way until the fucking morning so I get to fucking sleep. You could have waited six hours. I could have waited like this the whole night.
Speaker 1:Nah, I wouldn't tell you shit like that but, bro, any little noise, any little shadow, you see, bro, and that's it right there, Bro, I suffocate myself to go to sleep.
Speaker 2:I ain't dealing with this bullshit. I'd throw the blanket over my head, put my face in the pillow and just suffocate myself.
Speaker 1:I wake up. It's daytime. Oh God, I survived. I used to play. When it's still like that, I used to try to play that shit, so naturally, okay, whatever. When it's time to go to bed, tuck myself in, tuck myself in all the way, put an extra blanket over me, because that's a double chill really, and then put a pillow on my face, put the blanket over the pillow, tuck that shit in. Breathe, motherfucker. Breathe till you pass out. Breathe till you pass out bro.
Speaker 2:And then you just out.
Speaker 1:you wake up the next morning like nothing happened, like yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:The ghost walked up to you all. Covered up this shit too easy. Start strangling this shit. Really so easy?
Speaker 1:They make it so easy for me now but the moment I'm going to bed, bro, everything that I thought I wasn't scared of, I start being scared of now, Bro.
Speaker 2:I hate that shit Like. I hate that shit. Like as a kid, like you'd start thinking about all the scary shit and your imagination makes that shit.
Speaker 1:Your imagination makes that shit way worse.
Speaker 2:As a little kid, Chuckies or or Jeepers Creepers is right there behind me.
Speaker 1:I can tell for real, bro, for real, you feel it and it has that feeling of like it might actually be right there. It just might actually be right there, bro. I just started swinging.
Speaker 2:bro, Y'all want to play a prank on me or some shit. You going to get your shit crushed. You going to get your shit pushed back. One time I said boom, I threw a jab. Yeah, I know you felt that. I know you felt that.
Speaker 1:I remember one time we were little.
Speaker 2:It was, I think.
Speaker 1:Jared, sammy and me, or it was just Jared and me, but the point is we were sleeping in the room and he used to have the bed. I used to sleep on the floor and I think we watched a scary movie. Either I woke up on his bed or he woke up on my bed on the floor. But we didn't sleep or buy a cello that night. But I forgot what we watched and my mom was like nah, don't watch it because you're going to be scared. We ain't believe it, bro.
Speaker 2:We watched it while she was gone. Scared motherfucker bro. Scared motherfucker, damn bro. That shit is fucking crazy bro. Shit that you go through as a little kid, or like another thing that I fucking hated, bro. Like a thing that I ended up doing occasionally was like I always felt like something was behind the shower curtain. Oh my god, like whenever I go in to, like, use the bathroom, pee or brush my teeth or whatever, I know there's something behind that shower curtain.
Speaker 1:I'm opening that curtain up nah, bro, for me it was when I was taking a shower. Oh, you thought something was gonna get me the moment I close my eyes. But I'll do this, I'll do this, right, quick.
Speaker 2:Oh, would you wash your face? I'm gonna wash my face, bro, I ain't throwing that shit on.
Speaker 1:Look behind you, just look behind me, right quick.
Speaker 2:Oh, so we all live the same childhood.
Speaker 1:Swear to God this motherfucker right there about to kill me with a knife and shit about to kill me.
Speaker 2:Bro, I felt it Chill, I got something on my eye. You can't do it, hold on.
Speaker 1:That's against the rules, bro. I would feel, bro, I don't know where, I don't know why. I just feel. Now, you know, I just be doing that challenge. I just trying to see how long it go with my eyes closed.
Speaker 2:Just be taking a whole show with my eyes closed. Bro, that shit don't really faze me like that, bro. My shit just. Oh yeah, you all go get me. You all go get me While I'm blind right now. You touched me one time and it's game over for you.
Speaker 1:All I need is somebody who's just touching that nut.
Speaker 2:I'm always under.
Speaker 1:I haven't fucked a root. We're more of a threat To entities than they are to us, just watching what the fuck they doing over there you sure I can't scare nobody else nah, this is this is your case for today, on some monsters. This is who you gotta scare. But he be weird, bro. He be weird. Look at him. He's walking around his house just jerking his shit, just aiming at random corners.
Speaker 2:I don't even be on that corner alright, but let me give y'all a detailed account I found and read. This is called the orphanage attack. This was 1972 in Mexico City. A group of orphans reported hearing scratching noises inside their dormitory at night. At first they believed it was rats, but one night an older boy named Javier saw a large, hairy hand crawling up the wall and moved unnaturally as if looking for something. When he screamed, the other children woke up, but before they could react, the hand leaped toward Javier, grabbing him by the throat. Caretakers rushed in only to find the boy gasping for air, deep red marks around his neck. No one else saw the hand, but the children insisted it was real.
Speaker 2:After the attack, Javier refused to sleep alone and was played by nightmares for years.
Speaker 1:Fuck, Poor Javier bro. God damn, motherfucker got choked a little bit.
Speaker 2:He really got his ganso choked.
Speaker 1:Le jalaro su ganso.
Speaker 2:Duolingo, bro, shout out Duolingo for teaching me all my Spanish.
Speaker 1:Who learned ganso this weekend? Who learned ganso this weekend?
Speaker 2:I don't know stroke Jesus, poor dude bro, I can't. Right, Whole little orphan bro.
Speaker 1:Bro get choked out, bro. That's fucked up. I'm the orphan, bro. What the fuck he do man Just be like you. Just look up Holy. I fucked up. I'm the orphan, but what the fuck he do man Just be like you. Just look up holy. Nah, that reminds you of the face huggers from the Alien franchise. That's what that reminds me of. Poor little dude, bro. He ain't got no dad, he ain't got no mom, and this motherfucker getting choked out, fuck man.
Speaker 2:Fuck he playing Got ch. He got choked out at the orphanage. Oh shit, Can't even tell your dad. Can't run to no one.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. That's what I know. I can't believe you said it.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I was reading your notes.
Speaker 1:Poor little dude Was just talking about Miss. Get the fuck out of me, boy. I ain't your mama.
Speaker 2:Nah, that's fucked up.
Speaker 1:That's what y'all laugh too. Yeah, why y'all laughing for that's fucked up. I was 10 years old at the time, living with my tia Aunt. For those of y'all laughing for that's fucked up, I was 10 years old at the time, living with my tia aunt.
Speaker 2:For those of y'all who don't know, Everybody has an aunt named tia Right, that's great. Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:What happened For my aunt Donna? I would never fall asleep alone. I simply never could. Living in Central America at the time, man, no lights at night, and if you needed to use the bathroom it was located outside of the house. We were renting a home that was attached to a circle of homes Think of an apartment complex. In the middle of these 10 separate apartments there was a patio in the center. This was the only source of light at night. The light would lightly shine into my bedroom. My tia would fall asleep with me every night, but every morning she would be gone, which was fine by me, because I wouldn't notice until morning.
Speaker 1:This specific night, when, as usual, we laid down and went to sleep, I woke up a few minutes later only to find my tia gone. I tossed in bed, tried to get comfortable when something caught my eye. Whatever it was seemed like it was floating in the corner of my room. I thought a bug or beetle came in. It came closer to me A bird. Then I saw the fingers Fingers like any man would have a human hand. I blinked several times, hoping I was dreaming or hallucinating. As it came closer, I noticed how hairy it was. It wasn't crawling on the ground, it was hovering. It was a hand, only hand. From the wrist down it began to slowly make its way to me.
Speaker 1:I knew I wasn't imagining this. I remember how it separated the light from the darkness in the room as it came to me. I had never yelled so loud in my life. Tia, tia. I yelled and threw the blanket over my head. I heard footsteps down the hall and my aunt threw the door open. Mija que, she asked, la mano peluda. I pointed, I looked up and the hand was gone. I cried and told her what happened and obviously she didn't believe me. She searched our home with the bat in hand, assuming a man might have broken in. She never found anything, and let me sleep With her in her room. She never believed that. I saw it and I will never forget that I saw it.
Speaker 2:Damn bro, that's pretty crazy. Floated hair. A little different, a little different Than what we usually. Floated hair.
Speaker 1:Could it be it? It was hairy, it had pointy, it had pointy fingers. Could it be it? We don't know, was this?
Speaker 2:the suspect, could you please? Could you please describe the sub-sync?
Speaker 1:Literally just.
Speaker 2:Like we used to draw as little kids. It's six feet it's a silhouette. This shit got like Two thumbs. Two thumbs and three pinkies.
Speaker 1:Yo, that's my head. Oh, comedians out here. Comedians out here, alright.
Speaker 2:This one's called the hand beneath the bed.
Speaker 1:Oh, comedians out here, comedians out here, alright this one's called the Hand Beneath the Bed.
Speaker 2:This is a survival story from a man named Jeroen. No, I'm just joking. This is from a woman named Mariana. She claimed she felt something grab her ankle while she was sleeping. At first she thought it was her cat, but when she looked down she saw a hairy, disembodied hand clutching her leg. She tried to scream, but her voice was paralyzed with fear. The grip tightened, as if trying to drag her off the bed. In desperation, she reached for a bedside cross and pressed it against her skin. The hand released her, instantly, vanishing under the bed. The next morning she found bruises in the shape of fingers around her ankle. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Nah, that was crazy. That was good, though that was good.
Speaker 2:That's why you have to have your crucifix right beside your bed. People Please understand, listen that. Or like a 45. I was about to say the same thing or a 14. At least.
Speaker 1:Come on, man, everybody know 45 guys around, all right, so I was about 708 when I saw it. Uh, I was in my room. I had a door that led to the kitchen, the fridge one side of the wall, my bed, uh, on the other. I wake up and I'm sitting on the edge of my bed. As I'm looking towards the kitchen, a hairy hand, which looked more like a burnt leathery red hand with pointy nails, reach out from the front of the fridge where the fridge door is located. As I saw that, I ran to where my mom was. Luckily, I had another door that led to the bathroom, and the bathroom had another door that led to my mom's room. My mom was pissed that I woke her up. That was it. Oh damn, that was it. Yeah, that was kind of short. I feel like I didn't completely copy.
Speaker 1:I feel like I missed something on that one.
Speaker 2:I'll give you another one. Go ahead, I'll give you another one.
Speaker 1:All right. When I was young around 9 to 12, my mom told me to get my shoes and to get ready because we were going, we were going to go out somewhere. I retracted my steps to remember where I last put my shoes and remember leaving them under a bed in one of the rooms that was the most isolated of them all. This was a big house in ogden, utah. After finally reaching the room, I get on my belly and started looking for my shoes and noticed they are a bit far from my reach, like three to five inches.
Speaker 1:I couldn't go under the bed anymore because I was a bit chubby and the bed was very low. I only managed to insert my hand in my shoulder. While I was frantically reaching for the shoes, with no success, my smart, taller mind reminded me that I remembered the Addams Family hairy hand. Honestly, I don't know why. And in that instant the shoe lightly flung itself to my hand, perfectly lightly flung itself to my hand, perfectly landed in my open palm. I, snubbed by this, left the shoe there and ran to what seemed like an eternity to my mother. So I was there for that one.
Speaker 1:So she, she actually didn't see it, but she got an image of the hand in her head I feel like that's kind of like something that people do tend to have.
Speaker 2:Like they will get the image inside their head and then like like, um kind of like. You know, we had the story about that one girl where she's like I didn't see anything, but inside my head I just saw the image of like a minotaur okay, okay, yeah, yeah like. I feel like you might not see it, but you can feel the presence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, maybe, maybe, yeah, no, no, no, you know what? I'm saying yeah I believe, because I I kind of I kind of feel that in in a sense yeah, I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2:That's just me thinking, though. Y'all let me know if I'm right or wrong. All right, so let me give you this last one I have. This one's called the Haunted Prison Sale. In 1933, veracruz, mexico, an infamous prisoner named Tomas El Diablo was said to be involved in brutal murders. He laughed at legends of ghosts and curses until he met La Mano Peluda. Guards found him dead in his cell one morning, his eyes wide open in terror. His throat had deep claw marks, but no one else had entered his cell. Other prisoners claimed they heard him screaming about a hairy hand trying to choke him. After his death, inmates reported hearing scratching noises on the walls and feeling an unseen presence watching them in the dark.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, that motherfucker really died on that shit. All right, I got a final one. Just close it up, or you just want to go to the next topic? Just for time? No, you can go ahead and give them. Yeah, you can. So my brother saw a gray hand with long nails come out of our dad's stereo speaker years ago when he was a kid. It wasn't hairy, though, our dad said. He used to play Black Sabbath through those speakers years before that and he wondered if, by listening to that, maybe something evil had been attracted to them. So that was it. That was actually pretty good because, you know, in a sense he manifested that energy or something like that Into the speakers by playing. I don't really believe In If you listen to a certain type of music, it, it, it attracts that, but I mean, who knows?
Speaker 2:Alright, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. To fiction. Y'all let us know what y'all think. Let us know if y'all believe in la mano peluda. Let us know if y'all think it's factual, actual or whatever, or if it's like a made-up thing. Let us know if y'all have any stories. Have y'all encountered it? Do y'all have any relatives that have stories about la mano peluda? Or just just tell us what you think in general. Oh, we got, we got, we got it. Oh yeah, that's right, we got to rate it.
Speaker 1:I give it a 7 out of 10.
Speaker 2:7 out of 10? 7 out of 10.
Speaker 1:Damn. You rated it so high. Why that ain't high. I was going to give it a 10 out of 10 low key 10 out of 10? I was, but that was like mean. My brother's encountered something like it. It can happen. I feel like it's just if you're down the bad path minus poor orphan kid I don't know what the fuck was going on with him but if you're doing bad or like you're just being a little naughty, I feel like it could come for you, like it could scare you. Never mind, now that I said that out loud, um.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's drop that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's drop that down. Let's drop that down to a. I say five, five out of ten.
Speaker 2:Stand on it. Stand on it. Five out of ten.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause I mean, it's really you, just If you.
Speaker 2:That shit a two for me, that shit a two's it a two for me, that's it too.
Speaker 1:Hold on, why? Why two?
Speaker 2:it's just a fucking but they could get you, though I'm not doubting that it could choke me or anything like that. But, bro, I could tickle the hand. Bro, you telling me I can't, I'll lick the hand, I'll work my magic with this tongue you say it too that shit shrivel up like because there's really no boundaries for it.
Speaker 1:There's no boundaries. There's no boundaries for it.
Speaker 2:Ah, bite that hand. Ah, burn the hand. Ah, choke the hand. Get the fuck out. What happened? Choke the wrist out, that motherfucker. This is why you got to have a big neck All the time. All this time you just been needing to train your neck to be the size of a tree trunk.
Speaker 1:They do say it's bigger than a regular hand, though.
Speaker 2:Oh, so it's a big hand.
Speaker 1:It's a big hand, yeah, big throat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big throat Swallow the hand Freaky tono Damn. So it's a big hand.
Speaker 1:I don't know bro I would say it could happen. Could it happen? Yes, so you believe in it. I believe in it, I believe that it could come for you. It could pull your leg, it could attack you.
Speaker 2:I'm not doubting that there is something, because anything could be possible. Anything could be possible In the realm of demons and all that stuff. We said it before.
Speaker 1:All we need is just one case. That is true, and it validates it completely.
Speaker 2:I'm not. I mean, I believe there is something out there. I'm not sure what it could be, or if it's this in general or this is some type of trick, or what's the premises for attacking you or not? But for me it's just like bro, it's just a hand bro.
Speaker 1:It is just a hand. I'm not saying this is like a daily occurrence or like a daily, and obviously you know something like that's all happening awfully. You know we could take measures to to eliminate it or stop that from prevent it from happening again. But just for the fact that it can't happen, you give it a five, I get a five, all right y'all let us know what y'all think, what y'all rate this thing.
Speaker 2:Y'all rate it as something deadly. Y'all rate it as something that's you know, it's not no Bete de Jevedon.
Speaker 1:It's not no, bigfoot, it's not no, bobby Yaga, it's not no. We're comparing it to those two, though I forget, I forget.
Speaker 2:Cause you talking about something, something that's going to do some damage to you, that's going to do some damage, you're right.
Speaker 1:You're right, you're right. We all can move.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm not downplaying it in the sense of I mean it's just going to choke you out. I mean, essentially that's all it's going to do.
Speaker 1:Like get out your eyes out Toss, Toss.
Speaker 2:It'll pull you down to hell. Toss it, hand dragging a whole body.
Speaker 1:Leaves they can do take out your eye or something like that, Scratch you up choke you out.
Speaker 2:Bruh, I say two, you say two.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to stay. I'm going to bring it down a little bit. I'm going to bring it a little down because, compared to the Jebel Dawn, you feel me. Bruh nothing can top that Right Low key.
Speaker 2:I just, I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's just me, though. Nah, I believe it, I believe it.
Speaker 2:Cool fire, like an aspect of like threat. I mean, yeah, it's something I mean, because if something's choking you out, what can you do?
Speaker 1:I mean you can't, you're not you can't grab nobody both of your hands to like try and take it off, but it's already gonna be. You know that motherfucking strong as shit, right, but he got a crucifix nearby, he can wear it off. That's what I thought. I just I don't know bro y'all, let me know what y'all think. Y'all, let us know. Y'all, let us know y'all, rate us y'all rate us.
Speaker 2:y'all rate. Let us know if y'all believe. Let us know. If it's something that you have stories about, let's hear all of it. That's going to send off to the next and final subject of tonight, which is going to be something that we all enjoy. Some people claim that it's just people losing their minds, just remembering stuff of how things were the wrong way.
Speaker 1:There you go the wrong way. There you go the wrong way. The wrong way, the wrong way.
Speaker 2:Today we are discussing the mandalation, affectation, the mandela effect.
Speaker 1:Damn, I wrote my notes on. On mandela freeman, I'm just playing playing.
Speaker 2:I wrote mine on Morgan Freeman. All right, all right. So what is the Mandela effect? Dayo so?
Speaker 1:the Mandela in front of your ass, reverence. The Mandela effect describes a phenomenon where a large group of people collectively misremember a specific detail, event or image, often related to the popular culture or history, as if it were reality when it wasn't. The term was coined by Fiona Broome, who noticed that many people shared a false memory of Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s, when he actually died in 2013. Many people misremember the Monopoly man as having a monocle when he doesn't. Some recall the children's book series as the Bernstein Bears instead of the Bernstein Bears. Wait, what the fuck did I say? Bernstein Bears instead of the Bernstein Bears? What the fuck am I saying y'all? A common misquote of the Star Wars line is Luke, I am your father Instead of no, I am your father.
Speaker 2:That's wrong. Who the?
Speaker 1:fuck wrote this. It's wrong. Wait what you mean. So you're saying that Luke I am your father Instead of no, I am your father. What's the original line? I thought it was Luke I am your father.
Speaker 2:That's the Mandela effect, that's the man, that's what.
Speaker 1:But like I saw the movie though, how are you gonna how? They gonna tell me I saw in chinese how they gonna uh-uh, that never happened so I agree with you on that one, though I I recall.
Speaker 2:I remember being a little kid right hearing everybody say we led, I am your father and we laugh. I remember that I remember hearing that shit on the bus. I remember hearing that shit from people on the playground. Y'all are not about the fucking gas, like I know what I heard I fucking know what I fucking heard. You seen these ears? I can hear everything you shut up in the back I heard you.
Speaker 1:Sorry, there's nobody back there, it's the other room, they're in the walls. So possible explanations false memories. Our brains can create and store false memories, leading to collective misremembering, preconceived expectations. People might recall what they expected to see or hear rather than what they actually happened.
Speaker 2:Bit gaslighting if you ask me Bit gaslighting.
Speaker 1:And is that not them gaslighting me by telling me that I'm gaslighting myself? By telling me that I'm gaslighting myself? Power of suggestion, discussions, immediate coverage of mandela fag. Examples can create new, false memories in people, and some images may be less memorable than others, leading to more frequent misremembering.
Speaker 2:So that's a little bit of a little bit of history, a little bit of of why you could be experiencing what it Fete or what it is when it originated from, pretty much really.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 2:What are some of the what else you got?
Speaker 1:Let's see. So just Okay. So just a little bit more detail. So, wilma, okay, so why does the Mandela Fete interest of so many people so? Warmong bainbridge, a phd and assistant professor in the department of psychology uh, psychology at the university of chicago, is a leading expert on the mandela effect. She explained its popularity by nothing, by noting, I'm sorry. We like to think we understand our minds well and have good control over our memories. The mandela effect is one of those cases where our memory betrays us, creating a a creepy, eerie feeling. For example, many people remember the Monopoly man. Yeah, so many people remember the Monopoly man having a monocle, monocle, monocle, even though he doesn't wear one False. She don't know what she talking about Bruh.
Speaker 2:I swear she don't know what she talking about. Bruh, I swear, I freaking swear. He used to have the monocle. Bruh, I recall him, I know for Fat.
Speaker 1:A motherfucker had a monocle.
Speaker 2:I know the Monopoly man had a monocle.
Speaker 1:I ain't lose and rage a.
Speaker 2:Monopoly.
Speaker 1:There's no way so many times and I notice that motherfucker Just with the little monocle.
Speaker 2:If he didn't have a monocle, why would I imagine him with the monocle?
Speaker 1:well, funny, funny you say that, or funny say that. This is because many people have a preconceived idea of what rich, older men should look like like having a cane, a top hat and a monocle. When people misremember monocle is it's likely because they are falling back on those preconceived expectations. Another possibility is that the power of suggestion could cause people to have these false memories. Bainbridge says when people discuss Mandela, fake examples on social media, for example, it can create new false memories in people. Do you have any anything else? Do you want me to keep going?
Speaker 2:I was just going to talk about, like theories about the Mandela.
Speaker 1:Okay. Or like conspiracy theories or yeah what, while we have the mandela.
Speaker 2:Okay, go ahead, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. So there are a couple theories that people have about why we have the mandela effect or why some people are experiencing the mandela effect. Some are like parallel universes, multiverse theory, where some people believe that we've shifted alternate realities where history played out slightly different. Um, we got quantum immortality, a theory suggesting that conscious shifts to another reality after death, meaning people who remember a different past could have jumped realities I believe that, I believe that, I believe that I'm gonna bowl with that over them, trying to guess, like me talking about but that would kind of be like you transferred your conscience before you died, type thing.
Speaker 2:Right, is that? What that? That's pretty much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be before you, yeah, before you die. So as you grow up, you still have that previous right that previous memory, some shit like that.
Speaker 2:Another one is cern large, uh, the the collider type thing, where some people believe that CERN's experiments have unintentionally altered reality by opening small rifts between parallel universes. Then we got memory confabulation and suggestibility. Scientific explanations suggest that the brain fills in gaps in memory based or expectations, associations or external influences. Then you got the false memory and misinformation effect, where memory can be altered by repeated exposure to incorrect information, leading people to believe in things that never happened.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, that one kind of seems more plausible.
Speaker 2:That's just like some of the theories that people have like with that stuff.
Speaker 1:I had the same theory. Oh is it? Yeah, I had the same.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, my fault bro. No, you good.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So apart from that, I just have examples of. Go ahead, let me hear your examples. Okay, okay, so chase it out. So Shaggy's Adam's apple. Do you remember Shaggy with the big Adam's apple? Hold on.
Speaker 2:He used to have a big Adam's apple, didn't he? I remember him having that Right. He used to have that big old thing.
Speaker 1:I look at the pictures of the motherfucker and I ain't got no, it's a straight neck bro.
Speaker 1:They say he never had one, bro. Maybe, as he inhales a giant sandwich, so do tons of others, but in reality it's nowhere to be seen. But I remember this motherfucker, because they used to make those big-ass sandwiches, or they were always eating them. Scooby Snacks, bro, and they have an Adam's apple, bro. They had it. Just remember, bro, you cannot picture him without an Adam's apple bro. On the old ones, no, on the old ones, they said they never had one. It was him and Scooby had.
Speaker 2:Adam's apple bro Bro. I could have sworn. Shaggy used to have an Adam's apple bro. I didn't know that was a Mandela fake bro. Now they got me tripping.
Speaker 1:They got you fucked up, bro, got you. That's what they say, bro, that's what they say. I ain't no one need to tell. I was like what the fuck are you talking about? That you don't got an Adam's apple. I see that Adam's apple. They animated the Adam's apple.
Speaker 2:I remember that Right, it was just like a little kneecap right there Like a little ball, yeah, it was a little ball.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it was that thing would go up, Damn every time they would. Whenever they'd swallow it, it'd just go. I remember that.
Speaker 2:I remember all of that, Fuck bro ring, but I remember that right, uh-huh, I, I remember, I remember, if I get adam's apple bro, damn that that.
Speaker 1:Y'all not gonna gaslight me, y'all gonna. Y'all not gonna tell me that it's because I got a preconceived notion on that bullshit. It was butterfly effect. We jumped through time. It's another timeline.
Speaker 2:That's what happened I'm not wrong, I'm just from a different reality, I'm just.
Speaker 1:I'm just a little quirky, like that I'm just from a different reality. I'm just a little quirky like that. I'm just from a different multiverse. But yeah, that's number one.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, give me another one. That sounds good, give me another one.
Speaker 1:I got you Mickey Mouse's suspenders.
Speaker 2:Mickey Mouse does wear suspenders. What?
Speaker 1:He does not wear suspenders.
Speaker 2:What? What does he wear? He just has his shorts. He just has his shorts. Nah, okay, that's another one. That's another one that goes with that. That's another one that goes with that. Oh God, I gotta look this up. Mickey Mouse shorts.
Speaker 1:Some people remember Mickey Mouse shorts as red. Guess what color they are? They're red. They're saying yellow.
Speaker 2:Yellow.
Speaker 1:That's the same shit I said.
Speaker 2:Nah, they bugging, look See. Nah, not yellow, all right, so this one's bugging, hold on. Nah, I never seen Mickey Mouse with yellow shorts. Hold on.
Speaker 1:Did we use this cover at Mandela Effect?
Speaker 2:Somebody must have a different Mandela Effect Within the Mandela Effect. Mickey Mouse has never worn yellow shorts and I thought his pants, his shorts, were suspenders, but I could see that now the suspender was, I knew.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the yellow ones, okay. So I'm wrong on the yellow ones. Well, not me. Well, the the nose are wrong.
Speaker 2:The nose are wrong I could have sworn he wore suspenders, but not not.
Speaker 1:Now that I look at it, yeah, I think that's just me gaslighting myself right there no, what I think for me is when the old cartoons, they would do this little thing where they would go like that and I swear they they had suspenders right like they would do a little animation where they would go like that and they have suspenders. That's, that's at least what I thought they used. They used to have suspenders, right, I got, I got another one for you. So Captain versus Captain Crunch I used to think it was Captain Crunch. Wait, what was it? Captain Crunch, captain? Okay, do you think it's Captain or Captain Crunch? Captain?
Speaker 2:Crunch, captain Crunch.
Speaker 1:But I used to think it was Captain. Captain, I could have sworn. It was spelled out Captain Crunch. I don't remember seeing an apostrophe. I could have sworn. It was spelled out Captain Crunch. I remember seeing an apostrophe.
Speaker 2:I remember Captain Crunch, captain Crunch, captain Crunch, captain Crunch, hold the fuck on bro.
Speaker 1:Because Captain Crunch don't even sound right.
Speaker 2:Hold on, bro. Captain Crunch Right, it was spelled out Because it was the captain.
Speaker 1:It was the captain.
Speaker 2:Right, that's why we called it. That's why, that's why in our timeline, we called it, captain Crunch.
Speaker 1:Bro, it said Cap-in.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:Cap-positrophe-N. Oh, captain Crunch, captain Crunch. But I could have sworn, though, on the cereal boxes.
Speaker 2:I can't remember, I can't remember it done got to my fucking brain. They done deleted this out of my brain.
Speaker 1:Bro, I swear it was Captain.
Speaker 2:I can't fucking remember, bro, what's happening. I'm about to start tripping out. I'm low on sleep right now. I'm tired. I'm about to start. I'm about to have a whole panic attack. I can make myself have a panic attack If I just keep breathing like that. I've done it before. Once I start realizing that my tongue isn't really a thing a part of me, or it is a part of me, but I have no, I don't know. I start, my tongue goes numb and then I start having a panic attack.
Speaker 1:Go chug on the old tongue.
Speaker 2:Chase out, chase out. You want another one? Go chug on the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Check this out. Check this out. You want another one? Go ahead and give it to me.
Speaker 2:That's what I like.
Speaker 1:So Snoopy's tail. What color is Snoopy's tail? Snoopy's tail.
Speaker 2:Snoopy.
Speaker 1:Snoopy the dog.
Speaker 2:I didn't even know he had a tail. He didn't have a tail.
Speaker 1:So some would tell you is black, but in reality it's a white with a small black spot on it I don't recall snoopy having a tail meet me. I don't recall him having the tail.
Speaker 1:Snoopy had a fucking tail this whole time bro I don't recall, because I'm trying to remember him on top of the house, right, I guess, when he doesn't have a tail. Well, but it's saying not only that he had a tail, but some people say it was black. I don't even remember like a white or black tail, but it's a white with the black spot on it.
Speaker 2:It's just a white tail though.
Speaker 1:With the black spot.
Speaker 2:I don't see no black spot on it.
Speaker 1:Right there? Oh, not that one.
Speaker 2:You went past one oh, that black spot right there. So the mandela effect is he has the black spot he has a black spot.
Speaker 1:People are saying he had a black tail. Well, me personally I don't remember him having a tail period. Yeah, I don't remember him having a tail damn.
Speaker 2:We all from different it's like a. It's like a I really don't recall snoopy having a tail.
Speaker 1:I don't remember him having a tail either because, like I'm saying, my, my patient, snoopy, is him on the on top of the house I just put his little, that little intro you know they do with them, putting on goggles and everything that's. I don't remember him having a tail.
Speaker 2:I just never paid attention, I guess right, all right.
Speaker 1:So tony, right, alright. So Tony the Tiger's nose. So Tony the Tiger has a blue nose, not black. What I have never seen, this motherfucker with a blue nose. Look it up, bro. Motherfucker got a blue nose, bro. What the fuck.
Speaker 2:Oh, a blue nose, a blue nose.
Speaker 1:Bro, you see how weird it looks A blue nose Bro.
Speaker 2:I don't remember this motherfucker having a blue nose, bro, you see how weird it looks.
Speaker 1:A blue nose Bro. I don't remember this motherfucker having a blue nose, bro.
Speaker 2:Nah, y'all bugging with that one bro.
Speaker 1:Nah, that don't even look right, bro. It should be a black nose, right. It should be black bro, right. That doesn't even look right. Never has this, motherfucker. Bro. The box was blue.
Speaker 2:What. The box was blue. The box was blue Even on the commercials. He had a blue nose, I guess so.
Speaker 1:Bro the box was blue. I give him that the box was blue, but you see how blue, like how blue that nose looks.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:I forgot the Like.
Speaker 2:I'm having a whole Bro, what I'll probably just colorblind. That's probably just me.
Speaker 1:That's the normal frosted flakes, or so we thought the blue one looks so out of it, bro, like it looks so weird, bro, I did not fucking know that it might be just. I was not paying attention to the details, right, maybe, maybe, but really everybody knows it's just because a butterfly fit and we went through another wormhole and we had another.
Speaker 2:I could have sworn it was black, but I really don't know that one too well. I can't say that one confidently, with all 10 toes down. I did know about the Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa expression.
Speaker 1:What about it?
Speaker 2:Some claim that the Mona Lisa's. Well, how do you remember the Mona Lisa? What you mean? How do I remember Like her facial expression?
Speaker 1:She definitely wasn't a tan, but I mean I hit no, no, I just worried she was smirking, she was smirking, she's smirking, right.
Speaker 2:She got a little smile.
Speaker 1:She got a little smile.
Speaker 2:No, I remember Mona Lisa not even smiling. It was more like a resting bitch face type thing.
Speaker 1:She was smiling a little bit, was she not? Let me see.
Speaker 2:She was. It says she was, but I recall.
Speaker 1:Like more serious.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was more serious. I don't recall her that looks weird.
Speaker 1:Hold on, bro, like actually looking at it now. I haven't seen them on the lease on forever. That looks weird, right. Hold on, hold on, hold on I. It was like a little thing, but it was at that. Uh right, it was like a tiny little smart. It was a smart just right here on the corner of her mouth.
Speaker 2:I remember that it was just a smirk, but now here on the corner of her mouth.
Speaker 1:I remember that it was just a smirk. This bitch is full on smiling Right. Nah, that is creepy, I could have sworn. Nah.
Speaker 2:Nah, that is not the Mona Lisa Hold the fuck, because I remember art class in like ninth grade freshman year. I remember we were talking about the Mona Lisa.
Speaker 1:That shit gave me shivers.
Speaker 2:That shit, freshman year I remember we were talking about the Mona Lisa, but she gave me shivers. I remember, bro. I remember our teacher was like as you can see, she doesn't have a smile on her face, she's more of a serious like. She has a serious look with a slight smile, bro.
Speaker 1:the smile doesn't even make sense because nobody smiled back then. Right, that does not make sense. No, because that's a full bro.
Speaker 2:now I remember like a little right a little bit on the corner right here, corner of her mouth, bro.
Speaker 1:It was like a little. You could tell like. So it was just like like it was a little. It was like it was a little green subtle bro, it was subtle very subtle, very subtle, but if you saw it you know you like you get to. This is a full on. I have not seen the Mona Lisa in years. Bro, that is a full blown smile it says.
Speaker 2:Some claim that Mona Lisa's smile has suddenly changed, appearing more pronounced and almost smirking, whereas they recall it being more neutral nah, that's crazy it's just cause we jump timelines, is that?
Speaker 1:butterfly effect.
Speaker 2:I be trying to tell you sorry, I'm not quirky or crazy, it's just because we jumped timelines. It's that butterfly effect. I'll be trying to tell you Sorry, I'm not quirky or crazy, it's just because.
Speaker 1:I jumped timelines.
Speaker 2:I'm not from this timeline.
Speaker 1:I'm not from here, I'm not from this universe. Nah, check this one out.
Speaker 2:This one. I was like, nah, now y'all sounding crazy on this one. Alright, bro, what you got? The number of human kidneys.
Speaker 1:What the fuck, hold on. What the fuck? You mean the number of human kidneys? How much?
Speaker 2:kidneys do you have? We got two, exactly. Some recall learning in school that the human body has one kidney and we only have one kidney, not two. We got one kidney, look it up. No, I'm just joking. I'm just about to gaslight you. I'm about to lose this shit. You should have saw his whole world broke down in front of him. Yo Junker lost his whole shit.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, I know, that was it for me. Who took my?
Speaker 2:other kidney. No, no, no. But some people have said that they believe a human body had one kidney.
Speaker 1:Okay, they were taught that we only have one kidney, but we have two kidneys. We do have two kidneys.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was about to say While this could be a misinterpretation of the single functional kidney myth, it remains a strong Mandela effect for some. The single what. Some people believe that we only have one kidney. Oh, okay, that a human can only survive on one kidney. That's why they think we only have one kidney. Oh, but we have two kidneys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can survive off one. Mm-hmm, you can donate one. Yeah, so that one. I'm like, nah, yeah, nah, stretch, they're reaching, they're reaching, right, hella reaching, get him. He's reaching. What else you got, bro? All right, so this one. I know you remember this one. So the oops I did it again hits it. Oops, I did it again. So britney spears famous music video. Many can distinctly remember britney wearing a microphone headset in the video. Her doll was even sold with one. However, after re-watching it is clear that she never wore in the video. You doll was even sold with one. However, after re-watching it, it's clear that she never wore in the video. You ever seen the music video? I've seen this on mtv. Shout out to those who remember mtv she had a headset, she had a headset. I remember bro, because it starts in that grainy thing with the while she's dancing she has a, but now they're saying that she doesn't have a headset. At no point.
Speaker 2:She never had a headset when she's on.
Speaker 1:They're saying she never had a headset.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:But I remember that was like the song. She came on with the headset on singing that song. I remember. I remember it on MTV, I remember it. But since she didn't have a headset, okay, so I remember on MTV, I remember it. But since she didn't, she didn't have a headset. Okay, so I got another one. Is Jif, not Jiffy? People swear that there was a Jiffy peanut butter back in the day, but researchers speculate that they're combining Jif with this competitor, skippy. I remember a Jiffy peanut butter Jiffy, jiffy. They're saying it's not. They're saying it's just Jiff. I ain't never heard of no Jiff peanut butter, bro. I could have sworn it was Jiffy peanut butter.
Speaker 1:They're saying you're just remembering the competitor Skippy, but I don't remember no competitor. At the time there was nobody talking about no.
Speaker 2:Skippy. I don't remember no competitor. At the time there was nobody talking about no Skippy. I don't remember no damn Skippy. I remember Peter Pan and Jiffy. That's it Peter Pan and Jiffy. There you go. Or it might just be Jiffy Lube, Jiff Mmm.
Speaker 1:So that might be it.
Speaker 2:I just gaslit myself.
Speaker 1:Maybe we just figure it out here at Cosmic Code, we don't have to find solutions to everyday problems.
Speaker 2:I saw the Great Wall of India. Great Wall of India. There was never a Great Wall of China. There was always the Great Wall of India. No, I'm just joking again. Oh lie, here we are. Here, I am destroying Yayo's world. It's slowly deteriorating.
Speaker 1:Hey, that's not right. No, chill the fuck out Every time my brain is blowing, bro, my body can't keep doing that.
Speaker 2:Who said they doing me like I be tricking, gaslighting my mom?
Speaker 1:Dude, that's how she feels, Fuck, fuck.
Speaker 2:I hate it here. No, no, no, but it kind of is a theory. I mean not theory, a Mandela theory Okay. So many people recall learning that the Great Wall of China is the longest wall in the world. Right.
Speaker 1:Did you grow up with that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I grew up with that I did too in my timeline, in my timeline. So in reality, there is a second longest wall. It's the Kumbhala Fort Wall in India, which stretches over 22 miles and is often left out of historical discussion. Some swear they never heard of it before, despite its long history.
Speaker 1:So there's another wall and it's in India.
Speaker 2:I ain't never heard of this wall in India.
Speaker 1:I've never heard of this wall in India.
Speaker 2:I don't think they've heard of that wall in India, but I mean the Great Wall of China is the longest wall in the world right yeah. I want to say it is, I don't know. It was just another one. What about the thinker? The thinker, how do you recall the thinker being?
Speaker 1:The statue. Oh just like this right.
Speaker 2:Was it like that, or was it on his forehead?
Speaker 1:On his forehead.
Speaker 2:Was it on his forehead or on his chin?
Speaker 1:It was on his chin, wasn't it? Was it, do you tell me? Elbow on his knee, chin on his fist?
Speaker 2:Alright. So Many remember Auguste Rodin's famous the Thinker statue Resting its fist on its forehead while deep in thought. For that famous the thinker statue resting its fist on its forehead, while deep in thought that on this forehead that's what people say, but the official version shows the fist resting on the chin, not the forehead what you remember, both bro, both both who said they live both lives. What you remember? Both bro, Both.
Speaker 1:Both who said they live both lives. On his forehead, though, that's.
Speaker 2:Some old photographs even show people mimicking a different pose, fueling speculation of a change.
Speaker 1:Bro on his forehead. You can't even confuse the chin for the forehead, Uh-uh.
Speaker 2:I recall seeing both. You recall it for real, uh-huh, I recall seeing both.
Speaker 1:You recall it for real.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh. I recall seeing him just like sitting there like this. And then I saw another one where I thought it was just like him, but like in deeper thought or some shit like that Tight shit. I'm really just from a different timeline. The government might try and come and get me.
Speaker 1:He really just got different electrons and protons. He really just all right.
Speaker 2:So what you got, what other ones you got?
Speaker 1:so looney tunes. So it's spelled t-u-n-e-s, not t-o-o-n-s. Let me tell you why this is false. Let me tell you why this is false, cuz as an avid looney tunes lover, I used to go on YouTube in the mornings, type in Looney Tunes two O's and it was going to be Looney Tunes, not T-U-N-E-S.
Speaker 2:I thought it was T-O-O-N-S. It says T-U-N-E-S. I don't recall it being that, but I'll. It might just be me with my bad spelling at the time.
Speaker 1:Maybe I was an excellent speller at the time Amazing speller, one of the best.
Speaker 2:You know, one that tripped me out was when they talked about the boots Ice cream. You know how, like you had Spiderman, spongebob ice cream, you had all these other ice creams that had like their face With like gumball eyes, there was a Boots. Yeah, there was Ice cream pot. They're saying there wasn't, it's never existed.
Speaker 1:Nah, get the fuck out of here. They said it never existed. There was. I got one at Burnington Coal Factory, bro. That's what I'm saying, bro, I got one at Burnington Coal Factory bro, I don't remember Y'all trying to gaslight me.
Speaker 2:That shit was blue with like the peach, and then red, right, right, right and then two little black eyeballs, two little black eyeballs, yep. Y'all are not about to fucking gaslight me and tell me I'm fucking lying. Nah, that was. Gaslight me and tell me I'm fucking lying. No, I recall having a boots popsicle and eating that shit because they had that busted up.
Speaker 1:Door one that looked goofy as fuck.
Speaker 2:The door one was scary bro, because it had his hair and everything had like uh, he had his whole facial shape bro. I recall it bro, yep I remember that Never existed.
Speaker 1:Nah, they can't. You could have told me anything else, but not existing is crazy.
Speaker 2:Never existed To this day, to this day. Nah, that shit crazy. What else you got, bruh, so uh?
Speaker 1:Same thing. Okay, got another one Skechers. So Apparently there's no T in Skechers, apparently it's spelled S-K-E-C-H-E-R-S. You remember that like that. I thought it had a T, damn Skechers.
Speaker 2:I can't say it on my chest, bro.
Speaker 1:I can't say it on my chest, but I feel like it had a T. Okay, got another one Totally the same Fruit on my chest, bro, I can't say it on my chest, but I feel like it had to. Okay, fruit Loops, look up, look this up. Look up, fruit Loops. What about it? Apparently, it's not Fruit, it's F-R-O-O-T.
Speaker 2:F-R-O-O-T yeah, fruit.
Speaker 1:Loops, I don't know. Maybe, maybe, that one, maybe that one, maybe, maybe. Maybe, Nah, but I could have Swung it with fruit Like fruit, like the regular word fruit.
Speaker 2:I can't remember that one. I can't say that one On my chest either. What about C-3PO, c-3po, c-3po. What about him? Was he all gold?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was all gold.
Speaker 2:Nah, that's not right. He has a silver leg. He ain't got no silver leg. C-3po has a silver leg.
Speaker 1:I know silver leg, that motherfucker, all gold. There was a point where he didn't have, like he was, mismatched parts, but that was before he was all gold and that's like after repairs and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:He had a silver leg.
Speaker 1:What the fuck Nah? C3po had a silver leg when the fuck did that motherfucker get a silver leg? When the fuck, what, what.
Speaker 2:C3PO had a silver lane.
Speaker 1:That motherfucker didn't have no silver lane, he was all gold.
Speaker 2:Negative.
Speaker 1:What Look at that shit. What Look see, Y'all go right there.
Speaker 2:See, that's the Mandela thing.
Speaker 1:They couldn't get to that one See. C3po had a silver leg Did they just not record from the leg there. C3po Did I get no full body shots of him, and I just thought he was all gold.
Speaker 2:I don't know Silver leg.
Speaker 1:Am I really about to watch the whole Star Wars trilogy tonight, just to see if he had?
Speaker 2:a silver leg, just to see if this motherfucker had a. Y'all heard it here first. C3po had a silver leg Me in my defense and in my timeline. I thought he was all gold as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're not alone. I thought he was all gold as well, so alone. I thought he was all gold as well, so okay, I got another one. Where was it Pikachu's tail Bruh? I lost sleep because of this one. So clearly remember black detailing on the Pokemon character's tail, but in reality it's just yellow. The only thing I think is because they confused them with what's the Raichu, I think.
Speaker 2:Pikachu did have a black spawn on his tail, bro, but I swear.
Speaker 1:I swear he had a black tail on the Earth in the early days.
Speaker 2:Bro, he had a black tail, bro. They are not about the guys like me, bro. This is how he had his tail back in the day.
Speaker 1:That's how he had his shit Right there.
Speaker 2:That's how he had it. I'm going to have to look in my closet, but I have a freaking statue of Pikachu With that tail With the tail Bro.
Speaker 1:I almost want to say maybe it's just me, maybe it's just my Mandela Faye going with another Mandela Faye in my brain, our brain, making me crazy. But I could have sworn. I drew Pikachu before and I put that black spot on his tail Right 99%. Sure I did that.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Now my head hurts. Oh my God, maybe I'm just tripping, maybe I was just Maybe I fell and hit my head.
Speaker 1:All right, so this is my final one. So some people remember, remember the fruit of the loom logo having a cornucopia. It did have a cornucopia I sort of got it there. They're saying it didn't bro, y'all fucking lying I swear, bro, because I remember.
Speaker 1:I remember going to Rosa's Get it, get it, get it my mama getting me Food of the loon bruh. Now, it wasn't even Rosa's, what was it? Kmart Getting food of the loon bruh, and they had a Motherfucking cornucopia With all the, all the foods and everything On there. Almost certain, almost certain. Nah, I ain't even Almost certain. I knew that. I knew that's how it came, bro. If I could at least save one shirt for my childhood, it would have had it, bro, I could have sworn bro it had, it bro, it had it.
Speaker 2:No, they bugging bro. All right, I got one for you. In the wizard of oz, the scarecrow had a gun. So many people don't recall scarecrow holding a gun in the wizard of oz in 1939. In some scenes scarecrow clearly carries a revolver, which surprises people who don't remember seeing it before in the wizard of oz, the original one, I'm guessing.
Speaker 1:Uh, I, I can't speak on that one because I don't remember uh uh, I don't remember watching that movie, honestly, probably not recall him. That's a fool.
Speaker 2:The loon war, but it did have a cornucopia to it but it's saying it didn't.
Speaker 1:But I don't remember when it was just like that. But so he had a gun. Then what the fuck you had to go for? Timmy was strapped up no. The scarecrow, scarecrow was strapped up no the scarecrow. Scarecrow was strapped up.
Speaker 2:And then Smokey the Bear.
Speaker 1:What about it?
Speaker 2:What was his name?
Speaker 1:Smokey, smokey, the bear right.
Speaker 2:He had a last name. No, no, no, it was Smokey the Bear, but it wasn't the Bear, it was Smokey Bear, smokey Bear. His official name is just Smokey the Bear, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1:The Bear. It was Smokey Bear, smokey Bear.
Speaker 2:His official name is just Smokey Bear. Smokey Bear, not Smokey the Bear. Smokey Bear, my brain. What Bro, I could have sworn. I seen billboards saying only you can prevent wildfires. Smokey the Bear.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Help.
Speaker 1:Smokey the Bear, prevent wildfires. Smokey the Bear Right. Help. Smokey the Bear, fight wildfires. Bro, that's a duh in there, bro, that's a duh. Smokey the Bear, bro. What is reality? Goddamn butterfly effect, bro. I'm telling you, bro, that shit hurt my fucking hair, bro.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you that, bro. Y'all let us know if y'all have any crazy Mandela. Let us know if y'all have any crazy Mandela. Let us know if we're just gaslighting ourselves and we're just wrong, tell us straight up right now. Is we wrong? I know y'all motherfuckers on YouTube will gladly tell us we're fucking wrong. Man. Fuck y'all man. I said that shit with my whole chest. Put me in a timeline where you don't exist, fucking scum. But, like I said, y'all, let us know if y'all have any cool Mandela effects, anything that y'all believe.
Speaker 1:It's a cosmic cold with a K. No, I'm just playing.
Speaker 2:It's always been two C's.
Speaker 1:I'm about to go back and change everything.
Speaker 2:I'm about to go back on every episode and say it's C-O-V-E. I mean C-O-S-M. That way, people have our own, we have our own mandala.
Speaker 1:We create our own mandala. That's it.
Speaker 2:And it was never octopus, it was actually just.
Speaker 1:It was like vines or something. Huh, it was like vines or something.
Speaker 2:Right, just vines instead of octopus. Holy shit, but Give it five years, bro, right, give it five years. But y'all let us know if y'all have any good Mandela effects. Any have concrete proof? Because nobody has concrete proof, right, we just have memories, apparently, that are wrong apparently, apparently so.
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Speaker 2:I did something, uh, this past Saturday that probably deterred the whole uh, uh flow of how the podcast might be for a while, but it'd be all right. If it's just the two, it's okay. Y'all don't need guests. Y'all go wait like three more months for guests. But, um, like I said, thank you for listening, thank you for following. Be sure to share this to your friends, your family, your dog, your cat, anybody that you think that might like this episode or this, uh, this podcast in general. You know we really appreciate it means a lot to us and, um, yeah, like I said, uh, thanks for listening. So you got any shout outs? You want to say yeah?
Speaker 1:uh, just shout out sammy, jerry and and just shout out my family, as always. That's it really.
Speaker 2:All right, so on that, we're going to go ahead and end it off. Then We'll catch on the next one. So peace, peace.
